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Old 06-08-2009, 06:52 AM
 
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Not particularly "OK," but I'm unwilling to support literally forcing pregnancy.
How would "forced" be determined? An innocent life is in the balance, it's an important question.

A court case for every unwanted, "forced" pregnancy? Lie detectors, lawyers?

Be realistic. Your argument is that the pregnancy is inconvenient to the mother. Hmmm, sounds familiar....

If you're anti-AB why not be so all the way, and not say that some babies can live but not others.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Texas
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How would "forced" be determined?
A police report filed for rape. If it's determined later that the report is false, she can be prosecuted in the same manner as anyone else who files a false police report.

We are going off topic here. This thread is supposed to be about contraception. I think we can all agree that contraception is NOT abortion....the point of this thread. I won't continue discussing AB in general on this thread. I will on the abortion sticky at the top if anyone wants to.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:59 AM
 
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A police report filed for rape. If it's determined later that the report is false, she can be prosecuted in the same manner as anyone else who files a false police report.

We are going off topic here. This thread is supposed to be about contraception. I think we can all agree that contraception is NOT abortion....the point of this thread. I won't continue discussing AB in general on this thread. I will on the abortion sticky at the top if anyone wants to.
"we're going off topic"???
Yup, when ya can't answer the question.


But , I got to hand it to you , you at least put up some kind of argument....all the other anti-choice people have disappeared at the sight of an inconvenient question
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:00 AM
 
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A police report filed for rape. If it's determined later that the report is false, she can be prosecuted in the same manner as anyone else who files a false police report.
Lol, that's preposterous, why even use time typing it?
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I'd support adoption reform as well to make that a more viable option in the case of an unwanted pregnancy.
There's little need for that. People fight over newborns. The problem is that no woman should be forced to be a surrogate parent for someone else. As you said, it's an unwanted pregnancy. Adoption doesn't change that.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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"we're going off topic"???
Yup, when ya can't answer the question.
Actually we are. This thread is about whether contraception is abortion (or it's supposed to be). The answer? No...in fact it can help reduce/prevent the need for abortions. 98% of Americans would say that contraception is not abortion. That's settled. Abortion in general is to be discussed on the thread titled "Abortion."
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:03 AM
 
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Actually we are. This thread is about whether contraception is abortion (or it's supposed to be). The answer? No...in fact it can help reduce/prevent the need for abortions. 98% of Americans would say that contraception is not abortion. That's settled. Abortion in general is to be discussed on the thread titled "Abortion."
Good on ya for refraining from posting about abortion in this thread, then.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: On a Slow-Sinking Granite Rock Up North
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I suppose one could say that it's one more step in being people not minding their own business, and scaring the h*ll out of anyone who tries to be responsible for their own personal reproductive decisions. This is where critical thinking skills apply.

How many men has Viagra killed? Many. Drugs have side effects. Any adult who is even remotely literate should be able to educate themselves as to the risks and benefits of taking the pill and therefore, decide for themselves. It's also used to treat endometriosis and other related maladies. Do we hear anything about that? I think not.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:04 AM
 
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I suppose one could say that it's one more step in being people not minding their own business, and scaring the h*ll out of anyone who tries to be responsible for their own personal reproductive decisions. This is where critical thinking skills apply.

How many men has Viagra killed? Many. Drugs have side effects. Any adult who is even remotely literate should be able to educate themselves as to the risks and benefits of taking the pill and therefore, decide for themselves. It's also used to treat endometriosis and other related maladies. Do we hear anything about that? I think not.
It's good for your skin, too. Do we hear anything about THAT? I think not!
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Good on ya for refraining from posting about abortion in this thread, then.
I'm going to stop now.

I'll post about only contraceptives on this thread and about abortion on the sticky.
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