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Old 08-13-2009, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Was everyone whos ever called you a cracker [you said about
5 times in 20 years] a black person?
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Originally Posted by Just-Sayin View Post

(Oh, and I used the word "Fiftieth". that means 50, not 5)
I hope someone already pointed out that 5*20 (5 times a year for 20 years) equals 50...wow no one did.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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If I am having an argument with someone who is "dark skinned" and I call them the "N" word, does that make it justifiable, because they started an argument with me. NO, not at all.

So why are some of you racists trying to say that I must have started an argument to illicit such a response?

Stop trying to justify racism.

That's all it is.

If someone points out another's color or race to justify their cause it's racism.

I've been apart of the thread since it began.
In all due respect, Find a therapist or mental health professional,
your obsession bc someone called you "cracker" is unhealthy.

Not getting posters agreement doesn't warrant your calling
anyone here a "racist." Seek some help or find a hobby.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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I hope someone already pointed out that 5*20 (5 times a year for 20 years) equals 50...wow no one did.

5 x 20 = 50 Seriously?

Our education system is slipping big time.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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your obsession bc someone called you "cracker" is unhealthy.
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You think? I mean who actually counts the number of times someone called you a name? Do you carry a little pocket notebook and put a tick mark in it for ever occurence?
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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The definition I've read is that "Cracker" was once a term Scots immigrants used for a liar. Much of the south was settled by Scots and Scots-Irish and the term morphed to mean a poor white person. If any of you recall, it's used to describe the character Will Benteen in Gone With The Wind, who marries Suellen O'Hara after the war. (The book, not the movie.)
THIS is what I had always heard too(not saying it's true,just the way I've always heard it used)....my family IS Scot-Irish and that's the way they use it.

If a friend called me that I wouldn't care in the least and would laugh...if another person called me that then I can promise you that I would take it as an insult and the fist fight would be on.... I do NOT insult anyone that I'm not ready to fight and I figure if they insult me to my face that's what they are after too and I will gladly accomodate them.

I was raised not to call folks out unless I was prepared to back it up all the way and I was also raised to not TAKE an insult without giving reprecussions to the offending party... that's just the way it works.

IF the whole country felt that way,this would be a MUCH more pleasant country to live in IMHO.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:55 AM
 
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If he were black and being called blackie or some other derogatory comment, somehow I doubt this discussion would be so accusatory of his complaint.

The fact remains, the term cracker is racist used in the manner presented. One can accept it as such that the person using the term in that manner is propagating racist speak or one can defend it and try to lesson the circumstance. The latter only serves a double standard and is a racist support in and of itself.

People are racist of all colors. None are justified or forgiven in the application of their racist comments or actions.

While I understand the comments about making a big deal out of this, the OP is a bit justified to be upset as such mainly due to the responses here which appear to be "excusing" it rather than simply condemning its use and moving on.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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If he were black and being called a ******, somehow I doubt this discussion would be so accusatory of his complaint.

The fact remains, the term cracker is racist used in the manner presented. One can accept it as such that the person using the term in that manner is propagating racist speak or one can defend it and try to lesson the circumstance. The latter only serves a double standard and is a racist support in and of itself.

People are racist of all colors. None are justified or forgiven in the application of their racist comments or actions.

While I understand the comments about making a big deal out of this, the OP is a bit justified to be upset as such mainly due to the responses here which appear to be "excusing" it rather than simply condemning its use and moving on.

One of the BEST posts on this subject. Can only rep you once.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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The definition I've read is that "Cracker" was once a term Scots immigrants used for a liar. Much of the south was settled by Scots and Scots-Irish and the term morphed to mean a poor white person. If any of you recall, it's used to describe the character Will Benteen in Gone With The Wind, who marries Suellen O'Hara after the war. (The book, not the movie.)
I agree, three are different historical terms for many things, but context is important and the context of its use in this day and age is more widely known as a racist term. Especially within the context to which the OP is referring.

We do not use the word "f-a-g-g-o-t" when we refer to a bundle of sticks these days because of the social idiom that has adjusted its meaning.

Edit: And this is evident by the language checker in this forum.
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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One of the BEST posts on this subject. Can only rep you once.
I repped for the pair of us
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:06 AM
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During George H. Bush's Presidential campaign his son George W. Bush, introduced Campaign Strategist Lee Atwater as a "North Carolina Cracker"
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