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Old 11-28-2009, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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On a lighter side we can all enjoy the music video "Hide the Decline" staring Michael Mann.

The kids will love it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

Always follow the money.

I was in college when the first Earth Day was "celebrated" and I remember our English lit professor assigning us to write a paper describing what the world would be like in 1990 after the oil ran out. Papers were handed out clearly showing we were running out of oil with descriptions of cold houses, ships just floating in the ocean and an absence of any cars on the roadways.

I was only 21 but was so depressed. Make no mistake about it, if I had written we had enough oil to last at least to 2020 the professor would have issued an automatic F. We were going to run out of oil by 1990 the science was settled.

Over the years I had to endure the specter of another ice age, nuclear winter, the population time bomb, the total economic crash of 1986 (or whenever it was), a silent spring, acid rain, ozone holes, global warming, sea levels rising 300 feet, bird flu, SAR's, Y2K and the latest, global warming. Pig flu which appears to be a fat nothing.

You'll excuse me if I fail to swallow the latest poppycock spewed forth from academia. You're right, I've learned not to automatically trust you.

Always follow the money. Really, always follow the money!


Surprise!… Obama’s Climate Czar Is Board Member of Major Carbon Offset Company …Update: Her Husband Lobbied on Energy Issues (Updated 2-12)
Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 8:26 PM
Jim Hoft

It was reported yesterday that Barack Obama picked a radical socialist as his climate czar. Carol Browner belongs to organizations that call for “global governance” and demand that rich countries shrink their economies to address climate change. But since her pick, Mrs. Browner’s name and biography had been removed from these socialist websites.

Now, it was discovered that this same radical eco-socialist is a board member of one of the leading carbon offset trading companies, APX!

William Teach passed on that Carol is a board member of a leading carbon offset trading company.

Something tells me Carol Browner's and Al Gore's investment portfolios just took a dump but they weren't in it for the money they were in it to save the planet.

So, are they going to stop? No way, they can not afford to stop and if able this group of thieves will jam global warming and the tax involved right down our throats if they have to cut off the air supply to do it.

Now they are going to get dangerous.
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Old 11-28-2009, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Always follow the money.

I was in college when the first Earth Day was "celebrated" and I remember our English lit professor assigning us to write a paper describing what the world would be like in 1990 after the oil ran out. Papers were handed out clearly showing we were running out of oil with descriptions of cold houses, ships just floating in the ocean and an absence of any cars on the roadways.

I was only 21 but was so depressed. Make no mistake about it, if I had written we had enough oil to last at least to 2020 the professor would have issued an automatic F. We were going to run out of oil by 1990 the science was settled.

Over the years I had to endure the specter of another ice age, nuclear winter, the population time bomb, the total economic crash of 1986 (or whenever it was), a silent spring, acid rain, ozone holes, global warming, sea levels rising 300 feet, bird flu, SAR's, Y2K and the latest, global warming. Pig flu which appears to be a fat nothing.

You'll excuse me if I fail to swallow the latest poppycock spewed forth from academia. You're right, I've learned not to automatically trust you.
Some memories are shorter than others.

Excellent post.
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Old 11-28-2009, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Some memories are shorter than others.

Excellent post.
Thank you.

You know what I find most upsetting about all this? It's the way this group of liars and thieves has managed to worm their way into elementary schools in order to scare the living hell out of first grade school children.

Teachers promoting environmental biases in classrooms

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My grandson is five years old. After his second week in school, he asked his father what he was doing about global warming.

Think about that for a moment. Does anyone believe that a five year old can even understand the controversy surrounding the science of global warming, let along question what he is being told?


Rather than teaching my grandson the knowledge he will need to succeed academically – analytical skills and open mindedness, among others - his teacher is spending time indoctrinating him with her beliefs on global warming.

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and this one.

'Inconvenient Truth' Producer Pens Kids' Global Warming Text
Randy Hall
Staff Writer/Editor

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(CNSNews.com) - Move over, Chicken Little. A children's book planned for release in September is an attempt to "fill the minds of children with 'sky-is-falling' global warming hysteria," a Republican senator warns.

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Of course the warning was issued by an evil republican who is 1)dumb and 2)wants to kill little children leaving it a mess for his grandkids.
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Old 11-28-2009, 07:46 PM
 
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A file cabinet would do.

This IS a problem, isn't it?

There is another article here from a while back: The Dog Ate Global Warming | Patrick J. Michaels | Cato Institute: Commentary

Electronic data storage back then wasn't what it is today, probably on tape and what would be considered a minuscule amount today in size would have been enormous back then. It's not inconceivable that they would have erased it. It's still a problem today if you consider it, as digital collections of images and particularity video grow the maount of space reguired to store it grows considerably.

For example mini DV is about 14GB per hour, when I archive it to drive I edit out all the crap first... camera pointing at ground, pointless video etc.
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Ahhh...here comes the crazies.

Western lifestyle unsustainable, says climate expert Rajendra Pachauri | Environment | The Observer

Western lifestyle unsustainable, says climate expert Rajendra Pachauri


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Hotel guests should have their electricity monitored; hefty aviation taxes should be introduced to deter people from flying; and iced water in restaurants should be curtailed, the world's leading climate scientist has told the Observer.

Rajendra Pachauri, the chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), warned that western society must undergo a radical value shift if the worst effects of climate change were to be avoided.
Where do they find these friggin nuts?

How big of a carbon footprint is this Copenhagen debacle going to leave? Imagine the emissions from all those jets, private and otherwise, descending on the city, all those caravans of SUV's, all that electricity you will be using and the fine food and drink you will be consuming.

Hypocrites, one and all.

Hey, where did all the believers go?
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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He's from India which would stand to gain considerably with any CO2 caps put in place here.
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Old 11-29-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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So..now that we know this scientists threw out the raw data on which their conclusions were founded, what's to be done? This is really just unbelievable - I think now we know why they have been resistant to releasing their data.

Hot Air » Blog Archive » Weird science: East Anglia CRU threw out their raw data

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When would scientists expecting the world to take them seriously throw out the raw data on which their conclusions are based? Probably at the same time that they e-mail each other to launch professional vendettas against skeptics and conspire to hide contradictory data.

So now the only data that other scientists can check are those that have been, er, adjusted by UEA-CRU. Were those “adjustments” proper? Did they have a scientific basis for making those adjustments? Were there any gaps in the data?
All good questions.
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Old 11-29-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Climate change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation - Telegraph

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The second and most shocking revelation of the leaked documents is how they show the scientists trying to manipulate data through their tortuous computer programmes, always to point in only the one desired direction – to lower past temperatures and to "adjust" recent temperatures upwards, in order to convey the impression of an accelerated warming.

This comes up so often (not least in the documents relating to computer data in the Harry Read Me file) that it becomes the most disturbing single element of the entire story.

This is what Mr McIntyre caught Dr Hansen doing with his GISS temperature record last year (after which Hansen was forced to revise his record), and two further shocking examples have now come to light from Australia and New Zealand.
Indeed. The Harry_readme file is very alarming. It gives great insight into just how much they have massaged the data.

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Old 11-29-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Still Hiding the Decline « Climate Audit – mirror site

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Even in their Nov 24, 2009 statement, the University of East Anglia failed to come clean about the amount of decline that was hidden. The graphic in their statement continued to “hide the decline” in the Briffa reconstruction by deleting adverse results in the last part of the 20th century. This is what Gavin Schmidt characterizes as a “good thing to do”.




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Deleted values are shown in magenta. Source code is in first comment.
Well, that's a bit of a difference.
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Old 11-29-2009, 02:02 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu_ok...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPDc...layer_embedded

on a somewhat related note, bing is looking better and better, esp. compared to google..

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