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Old 11-24-2009, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The wages of sin or saintleness are the same. We all die eventually.
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Old 11-24-2009, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Teaching that homosexuals will go to hell is hatred.

See I knew this would come up to. People would quote the bible to defend something. Well is there some sort of trump rule in the bible? Which shall we believe an eye for eye or thou shall not kill? It cant work both ways but that seems to be how the bible goes. You can defend any side of any situation with quotes. See this too is in the bible.

You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:38–39, NRSV)

the bible also says:


  • DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
    If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
  • DEUTERONOMY 22:22
    If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.
  • MARK 10:1-12
    Divorce is strictly forbidden in both Testaments, as is remarriage of anyone who has been divorced.
  • LEVITICUS 18:19
    The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.
  • MARK 12:18-27
    If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.
  • DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12
    If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
we can go on and on to find individual pieces that will support abortion, gay marriage, slavery etc.
Nice cherry pick of the scriptures. If you want the whole scripture in context read below. If you just want to twist it the way you like continue on. I love the way Christian haters try to justify their hate.

MARK 12:18-27
If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.

Are you just ignorant of the scriptures or just have that much hate? Remember hate crimes against religous people are up 9%.

18Then the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 19"Teacher," they said, "Moses wrote for us that if a man's brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and have children for his brother. 20Now there were seven brothers. The first one married and died without leaving any children. 21The second one married the widow, but he also died, leaving no child. It was the same with the third. 22In fact, none of the seven left any children. Last of all, the woman died too. 23At the resurrection[a] whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?"
24Jesus replied, "Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? 25When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 26Now about the dead rising—have you not read in the book of Moses, in the account of the bush, how God said to him, 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'[b]? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!"
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Old 11-24-2009, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Why do so many "christian" conservatives hate so many people.

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Why so many un christ like behaviors?

Pro- death penalty.

Hate Gays.
Hate "illegal" immigrants.
Hate African Americans or at least point a racial finger at everything.

Christ loved everyone. The poorest, the outcasts, lepers, whores.


So why??

The current rightwing mouthpieces peddle fear, anger and intolerance to an audience that drinks it up. And they wield Jesus like a revolver.

Nowadays, the pinnacle of far right patriotism is to hate your fellow Americans.


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Old 11-24-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Why do you assume I have no clue?? I was raised in a catholic house and school for 18 years. I know plenty about it. Bring it on.
Well you mentioned illegal immigrants in your op. By this inclusion I can only assume that if someone broke into your home in the middle of the night that you would bake him cookies and declare him a part of the family?

I await, but do not expect, your reply.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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I understand that some people respond based solely on emotion, but disagreement on an issue does not equal hate for most.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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I seem to remember God destroying quite a few people in the bible. It's very christian to disagree with aspects of evil as you see them. Liberals tend to forgive everyone and align themselves with people I would describe as horrible, vile people because they themselves are criminals, liars, and deviants. It's also for this reason they tend to reject religion on principle.

Jesus loved everyone.. Actually people reject religion because they think for themselves and see through the mind control
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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So you hold them to a higher bar just because they are Christians?

We should ALL be Christlike, Christians or not. It has nothing to do with religion, but being humane.


nothing about religion....christ as a human being was a great person, like Gandhi , the dalai lama, MLK, just good humans regardless of religion.

Jesus did not start a religion.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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Probably because of the opposite reasons christian liberals hate so many people.

examples please.
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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Unfortunately, that is a very common cheap retort on this forum. If you say something negative about anything, it's automatically assumed you are not from that area or are not a part of that church. There is no possible way that you could be a member of a Christian church and criticize conservative Christians just like if someone criticizes the South, there is no conceivable way the person could be from the South. Yes, it's a weak argument

the key being I was a part......I have opened my own eyes now
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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What do you base this on? I've never read anything to that extent on this forum. Could you find an example? The liberals, if anyone, are the ones who aggressively dispute the content of the anti-Black threads on this forum. I've seen conservatives dispute those Black threads as well but I have yet to see a liberal agree with one the stereotypical Black threads.

Thank you......this is another tactic. Just throw things out there and hope someone believes it.....just like conservative talk shows and politicians.
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