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Old 03-16-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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How about when they use stolen or fake IDs?
When they work using fake IDs,taxes are taken out & they can't file for tax returns.
The state checks & verifys IDs before someone is given welfare.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Pa
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...that's why we have nothing to worry about concerning social security...there are plenty of babies coming behind to make up for the cost of the boomers, right? Don't listen to me...I am a "socialist". (And you are not so you won't be using social security on principle.)
I was forced to pay in and I'll take what I can back. Thats not free money. Its my money coming back to me. The sad thing is had I been allowed to invest it the way I wanted then it would be worth a whole lot more when the time comes.
The socialist part comes in when people who contributed very little reap the rewards of other peoples hard work.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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how are they going to do that? with the big money they make driving down wages for all americans, or with the money they get for scholarships taken from american citizens?
You're assuming these children aren't American citizens.
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Illegals in my state cannot collect welfare, children BORN here can.
Explain how Obama's aunt has been sitting in government paid housing for the past several years while here ILLEGALLY.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:03 PM
 
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You're assuming these children aren't American citizens.
i forgot about the anchor baby thing, so don't get me started on that issue, which is another slap in the face to working americans. that only adds fuel for my dispute on "illegal immigrants are going to be supporting us in our old age"....

...(quote) the Bear Stearns investment firm and others have concluded that the actual number of illegal aliens in the United States could be as high as 20 million. When using the higher estimate of 20 million illegal immigrants and FAIR's 33 births per 1,000, this would roughly double FAIR's estimate to approximately 574,000 to 726,000 anchor babies born in the U.S. each year.

Having a child born in the U.S. does not prevent the illegal alien mother or father from being deported. But this rarely occurs, especially for the illegal alien mother. Numbers USA reports that "In some cases, immigration judges make exceptions for the parents on the basis of their U.S.-born children and grant the parents legal status. In many cases, though, immigration officials choose not to initiate removal proceedings against illegal aliens with U.S.-born children, so they simply remain here illegally."

The real solution is for the illegal alien parents to return to their native countries with their children. That avoids the potential or theoretical problem of deportation.

problem solved.

these anchor children aren't RAISING wages in the united states to provide us with more security, rather they are DROPPING wages, DROPPING employment, and forcing a huge financial burden on working americans for all of these "illegal immigrants".
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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you want to see how subversive our own government is being in regards to the law. in new jersey, at the same time that they are announcing necessary cuts in social services and likely teacher layoffs, they have an article about how illegal immigrants are encouraged to be counted/and hired for the census BECAUSE IT MEANS MORE MONEY FOR THE STATE.
Officials urge illegal immigrants to cooperate in U.S. Census to benefit N.J. | NJ.com

of course, this is completely nuts. i guess the plan is to sacrifice american jobs and working americans now so that we can keep the illegals -so that they can prop up social security and support us in our old age.....

i would suggest that isn't a very well thought out plan.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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When the government ignores its own laws and refuses to enforce its own laws then they are not laws anymore, are they ?
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:21 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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We can't afford it? The hell we can't. America has half the planets billionaires! There is nothing we can't afford. Nothing. Everything. Tax them. We're taxing them too much as it is? Nope. If we were, there wouldn't be 50 million new millionaire households in 2008!!!

H

Where are your stats to prove these 50 million new millionaires are not being taxed enough? What are you suggesting, a 99% tax?

How about Mexico seizing the over 53 billion dollars from the richest man in the world, who just happens to be from Mexico.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:24 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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That's what it is all about. Votes! If hussein obama cared one bit about the black community, he would demand illegal immigrants were deported since they hurt blacks in the job market more than any other demographic. As it is hussein obama is in the pocket of SEIU, who employees mostly illegal immigrants and brags about it. Where is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton on this issue? Where are all the black organizations that say they are working to better life for blacks in this country?

I know, they are Democrats so they too will sell blacks down the river for those illegal immigrant votes.
Hey morons... Your bus is leaving. You have to be a citizen to vote. Illegal aliens aren't citizens and don't vote.
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Hey morons... Your bus is leaving. You have to be a citizen to vote. Illegal aliens aren't citizens and don't vote.
You just can't .. quite.. make.. that.. intellectual.. leap, can you. C'mon, I know it's a stretch for you, but do try. Who do you think they (as a block) will (as in in the future when they are granted amnesty) vote for? The party that grants them amnesty or the party that wanted them deported?

Hurry up, I think you missed the shortbus.
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