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He wasn't rejected. By his own admission, he never made overtures, never asked a girl out, or even tried to start a conversation with one once he hit puberty. He would go to coffee shops and sit in a corner literally waiting for young women to approach him, and then drive home in tears because no one did, leading him to feel "rejected." The rejection was all in his head, and it consumed him. He was sick and miserable in his own skin for a decade.
That's right. This guy was never actually rejected. It never got anywhere near that stage where a rejection was possible. This was a kid who whose first introduction to sex was happenstance of seeing some porn. He said prior to that he never knew people did such things to one another and that no one had prepared him for puberty. It's on going that he connects sex with being traumatized and early on associated sex with feelings of being small, weak and worthless. This is where I think the later false myths he created about himself got their start. He had extreme reactions to almost everything. This was someone who by age 14 already felt so far behind his peers in sexual experience that he saw no other outcome but permanent failure.
The Santa Barbara killer was already diagnosed and on Xanax.
Look up the side effects of Xanax, it's highly probable that Xanax may have made him cuckoo and drove him over the edge as several of the side effects matches his behavior.
The thing is, from what he's posted so far he doesn't think he needs to change. He refuses to accept responsibility for his own relationship problems, and instead projects the faults onto other people for not agreeing and conforming to his unreasonable standard. Just like Elliot Roger. The two of them are cut from the same cloth.
1. The herd believes A
2. You believe B
3. Therefore, you are clearly a loser who deserves whatever you get, because you're such a loser.
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He said himself he wants to return to the days when women were forced into marrying early. Were the women happy under that system? Obviously not. But, that's just not important because they're only women so who cares about their happiness?
You said yourself you want to stay in the days when betas are forced to pay their dues while receiving next to nothing in return. Are betas happy under this system? Obviously not. But, that's just not important because they're only betas so who cares about their happiness?
Also, the state of female unhappiness compared to today is not "obvious." I have seen polls which indicate they were happier in the bad, oppressive days than today. Maybe I'll play the game your side usually does and demand an irrefutable, slam dunk peer reviewed article proving that women were 100% unhappy in those days, or else I'm right.
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Men like that don't want a partner to love as an equal, they want a trophy/sex toy/housemaid/nanny they can possess and ignore when they don't want something from her. I stand behind what I said. People with opinions like these are 100% at fault for their own relationship problems.
You have no idea what I want, nor do you care. You're attacking a caricature that exists only in your own head. The sort of men that are actually like that tend to do well with women. It's the sentimental idiots like me that can't ever really learn that get chewed up.
I don't think anyone said a person was "owed" anything by "putting nice tokens" into a relationship and waiting for a hot woman to pop out. But if one cannot understand the greater social problems of happily encouraging idiots, criminals, and thugs to out-breed the normal people... well, one has distinct failure to understand where that will lead in the end. Similarly, anyone with some common sense should be able to understand why a "nice guy" who "did the right things" would be ticked off if his efforts amount to nothing while he also gets to watch countless morons, thugs, and losers get women (or men in the case of "nice girls") without any problems.
One can stand around and blame the victim using Just World Fallacy nonsense - "oh, clearly the nice guys don't deserve to be in a relationship because they are not in a relationship, and everyone gets what they deserve in life" - or pretend that all the nice guys are really "sociopaths" and the thugs are really "good people," but that's all a giant farce. The simple reality is that too many people think with their hormones, not their brains, and thus reward bad behavior provided their partner is "hot" or "manly." Worse, our society encourages this by confusing thug behavior with "being strong," sociopath behavior with "going after what you want in life," and so on.
There's nothing like this forum to remind oneself of how myopic, banal and pettily vindictive the average person is. Apparently it's some kind of rarified (and reviled) talent to have any inclination or ability to perceive the larger picture at all. And of course, being that way is an invitation to all manner of abuse and ridicule. Noticing patterns is "crazy" and "immature," but spouting narrowly self interested platitudes is the mark of the right sort of person.
I'm not talking about the media or celebrities. I'm talking about people I see walking around every day--at work, at my daughter's school, at the grocery store, the mall, etc. What I see there are regular people--short, tall, fat, skinny, ugly, beautiful, skanky, prissy, casual, relaxed, macho, wimpy, tough, aloof, friendly--all of whom are making their way in the world and the vast majority of whom find mates if they want them.
I don't mean to be rude or snarky, but do you ever get off the computer, turn off the television, go outside and look around? The world I see every day does not reflect what the media is telling you. You are crippled by the notion that you are a victim and that there "aren't many good-looking nice girls," which is simply not true.
Final warning: stop making this personal.
But where I live, a lack of good-looking nice girls (especially the sociable, single ones) seems to be factual, and I believe many men elsewhere would claim it's true there. Meanwhile, go ahead and insist that women are the same as they were decades ago, while men have gone sour for no reason at all. By the way, the obesity rate shot up in the past 20 years and an ever-increasing percentage of each sex is single, so there goes the idea that most people can find decent/attractive mates without a struggle.
But where I live, a lack of good-looking nice girls (especially the sociable, single ones) seems to be factual, and I believe many men elsewhere would claim it's true there. Meanwhile, go ahead and insist that women are the same as they were decades ago, while men have gone sour for no reason at all. By the way, an ever-increasing percentage of each sex is single, so there goes the idea that most people can find decent mates without a struggle.
Oh chill out with your warnings. I'm telling you that my observations do not support what you're telling me.
But whatever, I'm done with this. You've determined that women and society have set out to make you miserable, so matter what, you're going to be miserable. There's not a thing in the world anyone else can do about that.
The title of this tread is like blaming the chicken for getting eaten by the wolf.
The problem is not women.
I see the problem two-fold:
The first part of the problem is the way we parent ...
Dr. Gabor Mate has some great insights about the importance of the first 2-to-3 years of early childhood development... "Hold Onto Your Kids."
Everything about finding out new reasons for addiction, to how Capitalism impacts the family.
The other part of the problem is the way the Social Engineers "Divide and Conquer" the masses.
It goes back to the Norman Conquest. (and further back to Plato.)
When people are pitted against each other in the cause of ... White Supremacy ... yet only the top 1% of "The Land Lords" are getting filthy rich, then some distorted people of fragile identity think someone isn't playing fair ... that someone is to blame for not giving them their rightful share of privilege.
The kid's parents probably have more blame than they're accepting.
Comments made over the dinner table. (But our warped popular culture may have been sufficient to distort his already Narcissistic view of himself.)
Sadly... what was going on in the house during the first 2 to 3 years of Early Childhood Development.
It's all there ... that's where everything starts.
(see the clip)
What you say is not true. Many women choose abusers and criminals, and many men choose poorly as well. And it is certainly not true that self centered people never find what they're looking for.
Ok, if a self-centered person finds what they're looking for, it's generally something self-destructive that is detrimental to themselves in some sort of way. At best, whatever they find doesn't benefit them in the long run. Self-centered people often look for pleasure, or something related to pleasure, not love, as love can only be found by being selfless. Therefore, even if they find what they think they're looking for (which is really just something to fill the hole in themselves that they have created), self-centered people will never truly be happy.
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Blame the chicken for getting eaten by the wolf?
