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Old 09-04-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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I was a teenager in the mid 80's and I just couldn't get into Punk back then.
The armchair anarchist in me likes the attitude and politics of punk, but I can't appreciate the (lack of) musicianship.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:27 PM
 
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The men i know who have a lot of toys also have jobs where they work hard to be able to afford those toys. They work hard, provide well, and play hard in their free time after responsibilities are taken care of. To me that is not at all like Peter Pan syndrome.
100% on the nail!
As I mentioned, I have a massive collection of diecast model cars. I've been collecting for over four decades and love my hobby. I also do trade shows where I buy/sell models, and have written and published a book about diecast cars.
However, I've always had an actual job that affords me to enjoy my hobby. Moreover, I take care of my personal expenses (rent, bills, food, etc.) so that I can continue to do what I love. So if someone wants to call me a "grown man playing with toy cars", that's fine by me - they might call it silly, but to each their own.
Incidentally, I know several grown women who collect Barbie dolls. To which I say, "More power to them!"
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:07 PM
 
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The armchair anarchist in me likes the attitude and politics of punk, but I can't appreciate the (lack of) musicianship.
This is a canard. There were plenty of great punk musicians. Plenty of incredibly tight, accomplished players and bands. X, The Minutemen, Husker Du, Meat Puppets, Die Kreuzen, Scratch Acid, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, NOTA, The Offenders, Big Boys. These guys and gals could flat play.

There was a lot of sloppy, noisy, cruddy stuff too, some of which was pretty great.

Admittedly, a lot of it doesn't hold up real well, but even in the day, I thought a lot of punk was generic. I feel that way about most kinds of music. A small percentage of it is great, then a lot of meh.
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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I expect you're right, Griffis. What I listened to did very little for me so I dug no deeper. No doubt there's more complex stuff out there, but it's unlikely to blip my radar.

Some thrash combined the speed and attitude of punk with more technical playing. Metallica left that behind after Kill 'Em All and set sail for more progressive territory, but I always enjoyed Anthrax and still do.

What an interesting sidebar this is. I'm certain some will see it as evidence of the topic and roll their eyes at us for continuing to enjoy styles of music they'd consider adolescent.
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Old 09-04-2017, 10:51 PM
 
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I love at least some of nearly all kinds of music. I played live music and did some studio work for 20 years solid. Even made some money at it.
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Old 09-04-2017, 11:41 PM
 
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I love at least some of nearly all kinds of music. I played live music and did some studio work for 20 years solid. Even made some money at it.
Yeah, got some kd lang going. I can swing from Hatebreed to Frank Sinatra. Love music. It's what keeps me above ground.
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Old 09-05-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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Since the Industrial Revolution, boys were removed from their fathers and raised by the mothers. When divorces became more prevalent and accepted, boys were removed from their fathers and raised by their mothers. The results are generations of boys raised by women, the results have been nothing short of predictable.
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Old 09-05-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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Since the Industrial Revolution, boys were removed from their fathers and raised by the mothers. When divorces became more prevalent and accepted, boys were removed from their fathers and raised by their mothers. The results are generations of boys raised by women, the results have been nothing short of predictable.
Ah yes blame the women. How predictable.

It's not a zero-sum game folks where in order for one gender to be successful the other must fail. That's a very infantile way to look at things.
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Old 09-05-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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Ah yes blame the women. How predictable.

It's not a zero-sum game folks where in order for one gender to be successful the other must fail. That's a very infantile way to look at things.
No blame was cast. You're projecting, which is typical victim mentality.
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Old 09-05-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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No blame was cast. You're projecting, which is typical victim mentality.
This post sounds quite defensive. Who possesses the mentality of victimhood again?
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