How long before she starts paying for dates? (reasons, feminists, giving)
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Why do you feel this way? For any reason other that 'tradition'?
Just tradition, I guess. Even though I'm young(ish)? (or old, depending on your age, I guess ... mid 30s), I can tell I'm getting older. When I was dating age, it would have been considered really weird and kind of gauche to expect a woman to pay for a date. I realize that that's not necessarily the case any more. Maybe nice young couples who respect each other and enjoy spending time together have non awkward ways to split the bills. Maybe I'd be the odd one in today's dating world for always expecting to pay, but that to me just seems like basic manners.
Then men should bring this up clearly when he meets a woman. If it isn't brought up and he pays anyway...his problem.
There was another thread about this recently....why don't men clearly state that this is their preference.
Hmmm...
I think a good idea would be for these guys to keep track of all the dates and then present her with a bill at the end of the month. Ask for payment and give her a few options (cash, check, credit card, paypal etc.) and see how that goes.
Maybe make her sign a dating contract midway through the first just to make sure everyone is on the same page regarding payment and money.
And why do you think that that tradition came about?
I understand it's from an era when women had less power and property than men, but I still like it. To me it's just being a good gentleman with good manners to not discuss money on a date.
Just tradition, I guess. Even though I'm young(ish)? (or old, depending on your age, I guess ... mid 30s), I can tell I'm getting older. When I was dating age, it would have been considered really weird and kind of gauche to expect a woman to pay for a date. I realize that that's not necessarily the case any more. Maybe nice young couples who respect each other and enjoy spending time together have non awkward ways to split the bills. Maybe I'd be the odd one in today's dating world for always expecting to pay, but that to me just seems like basic manners.
They usually pay for 1 date early on to confirm their interest in you. Do you understand now?
I think a good idea would be for these guys to keep track of all the dates and then present her with a bill at the end of the month. Ask for payment and give her a few options (cash, check, credit card, paypal etc.) and see how that goes.
Maybe make her sign a dating contract midway through the first just to make sure everyone is on the same page regarding payment and money.
Yeah, because that makes a lot more sense than just splitting the bill.
Women usually provide WAY more emotional support than men, TV. I have a lot of female and male friends. The females are MUCH more supportive. That's just what women do. If you share your problems with a male friend, his attention will probably wander off in the middle of it. If you share your problems with a female friend, she's likely to bring it up days later and have words of encouragement or advice. .
I think it varies for different people. In my experience my male friends have shown more support as females seemed to treat me and my issues as if I would get by and be ok. Like last year when I found out my mom had a brain tumor and my brother almost died twice within the year amongst some other things, the only person who offered prayer or lent an ear was a guy friend of mine...The women I knew who also knew about these things must have thought it was either no big deal or I was some superhuman male that didn't need any encouragement. So, it isn't the case for everyone that women are so supportive as you are suggesting. It may be different for other people like myself.
Yeah, because that makes a lot more sense than just splitting the bill.
Well, then you run the risk of her wanting to tip more, or not giving you enough. And what if you only have cards? Do you split it down the middle even though you got a steak and she only got a chicken salad?
I mean, if you're going to do it, you may as well do it right.
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