Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I agree that not telling a woman you are going out with that you're bisexual is, in fact, a lie. Not sure when you should tell them this and I haven't seen that come up in this thread. It would seem to need to be discussed pretty early and if they can't deal with it, then so be it.
About half of the rest of this thread is pure crap, though.
Yeah, what happened to tenderness and love and normal?
what happened to accepting, understanding, and being open minded? What happened to any of those?
Let gays be gays, Gay means happy.
Sure - I agree- but what I know is that straight and "NORMAL" natural relationships are of superior quality - all I saw regarding "gay" as I was growing up was that it was a very selfish and shallow culture...and most of the ones I ran into as a young person were NOT nice people...not saying that all straights are nice..but there are horrific gays also....as for open mindedness....the exit of the body is an exit and not an entry...once a philosopher twice a pervert...I just don't understand the culture...not to be overly offensive - but I suppose sexual mutations exist and I must tolerate that fact...carry on.
Sure - I agree- but what I know is that straight and "NORMAL" natural relationships are of superior quality - all I saw regarding "gay" as I was growing up was that it was a very selfish and shallow culture...and most of the ones I ran into as a young person were NOT nice people...not saying that all straights are nice..but there are horrific gays also....as for open mindedness....the exit of the body is an exit and not an entry...once a philosopher twice a pervert...I just don't understand the culture...not to be overly offensive - but I suppose sexual mutations exist and I must tolerate that fact...carry on.
So is the vagina an entrance or an exit? It goes both ways a lot. You have a very narrow view of sexuality.
LMAO @ women who say this: News flash, ALL WOMEN are like this...women ARENT open minded when it comes to male sexuality. Im not saying that to be offensive to you, and I hate for this post to take such a grating tone, when I actually am not trying to single you out, or offend you, but its just the truth...there isnt much difference between you and every other woman out there... Women talk all this sexual liberation and sexual freedom noise, but what they dont say is that they never sought for that to be a two way street entirely. They just meant that they wanted to destigmatize the whoredom that they were chastised for, while men were harolded for the doing same, and they want control over their body regarding birthing decisions. They never truly wanted to equally destigmatize bisexuality for men the way its destigmatized for women - not en masse anyway. Thats too much equality..lol
I cant even say I blame them either. Ive heard from enough women, both those close to me, and those I dont even know, to conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that all that openminded jazz is just lip service when it comes to bisexuality among men. They'll tolerate it as long as its not THEIR man. Women who want men, want men who love women in their entirety. And you cant love one thing entirely, if you think the alternative is better at times.
I'm not open minded. Some things, I'm just not open to. I hate cats, we just don't get a long at all. I don't eat eggs, all I can think is chicken period and it has a gross texture. And I don't like long hair on men. Before reading this, I wasn't aware so many women wouldn't date bisexual men. It just wasn't a problem for me when I was still single. Bisexuality in women isn't entirely destigmatized for women either. We're still sluts ready to jump ship at a moments notice. Some men and a lot of lesbians do not date bisexual women. Not all women are like the previous poster. We're as varied as men are. Try not to paint us all with one brush.
Things I have learned as a straight man from this thread that I never knew and, frankly, aren't actually true anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tatiana1
However, when a guy says he is attracted to guys also, that is very UNnatural. The same goes for girls who say they are attracted to girls. It is very bizarre and hard to understand. It's as bizarre as him saying he is also attracted to horses, pigs or cows. Is that natural? Absolutely not!!!
This is typical of close-minded bigots who don't understand sexuality. They compare being gay or bi to bestiality which is one of the most absurd and sickening comments I have ever heard, read or seen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
No decent intelligent woman would consider dating a so-called "bi-sexual" male.
And the person who said this speaks for all women.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tatiana1
Yes! Not only desperate but without any doubt, one who despises herself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
Usually so-called bi-sexual males are self serving pleasure seekers.
Because self serving pleasure seekers are never straight.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
As for bi-sexuality there is no such thing. If a man can have and enjoy sex with a woman he is straight! There is no "bi" about it.
OK, so if that same man can have and enjoy sex with a woman, then what is he? Oh, yeah. A selfish hedonistic.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg Bach
Those who call themselves bi are people without principle. They are an anything goes sort of person. A selfish hedonistic male can lean back and have some submissive gay give him oral sex...they don't care if it's the family dog licking their butt.
Mod cut: Orphaned
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vatnos
'BNGL' refers to bi now gay later.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tatiana1
OP, most intelligent/conservative girls know when there is something not right with the guy they are dating so most of the time, they already probably know about your status but keep quiet maybe waiting to hear it from you. There are also girls who really hate being alone or stay home on Friday nights, so they will date anything to say "they are dating", but that does not mean they don't know! Like Nila just said, she knew the guys she dated were like you but went with them anyway.
Note that "intelligent and conservative seem to go hand in hand in tatiana's reply since we all know that no liberal or moderate can be intelligent.
I kinda gave up after this. The OP came here with a legitimate question, even if I thought he was wrong -- and I told him so -- to lie to these women. Now we have some Friends of Pat Robertson come here to turn this into some great jihad against gays and bisexuals. Live your life the way you want to, but allow others to live their lives the way they want to as long as neither you nor they are hurting the person or property of another.
I'm not open minded. Some things, I'm just not open to. I hate cats, we just don't get a long at all. I don't eat eggs, all I can think is chicken period and it has a gross texture. And I don't like long hair on men. Before reading this, I wasn't aware so many women wouldn't date bisexual men. It just wasn't a problem for me when I was still single. Bisexuality in women isn't entirely destigmatized for women either. We're still sluts ready to jump ship at a moments notice. Some men and a lot of lesbians do not date bisexual women. Not all women are like the previous poster. We're as varied as men are. Try not to paint us all with one brush.
Although Im no longer wowed by bisexual women personally, I dont think many people view them as sluts just for liking women. Ive heard some be called 'attention whores', but I actually havent ever heard of a woman being called a 5lut as a result of her sexual attraction to other women alone. I dont know your particular preference, but the ONE OR TWO women Ive heard from who would date bisexual men, certainly have never stated it as their preference (as in, the most desireable of all options), the way many men state same sex attraction as a preference they have in women. Additionally, what these women here, and what women I have spoken to recently have said is that: not only will they not date a BISEXUAL man, they wont knowingly date a man who has had sex with another man period, regardless of his sexual orientation. (Rumor has it that there's a difference between the two -- let the 'sex experts' tell it). You just dont hear that kind of stipulation often from men. That is a clear demarcation between men and women. I'd be interested to hear from any man who would say that he wouldnt date a woman who has been intimate with another woman in her past...lol...he'd get laughed out of the building by other men (Including me), and written off as completely gay, insecure or a combination thereof by women.
I respect the fact that your romantic attractions span outside the rigid traditional man/woman constructs, but I think you are one in a million. You're actually the first woman Ive directly spoken to who would even consider such.
Sure - I agree- but what I know is that straight and "NORMAL" natural relationships are of superior quality - all I saw regarding "gay" as I was growing up was that it was a very selfish and shallow culture...and most of the ones I ran into as a young person were NOT nice people...not saying that all straights are nice..but there are horrific gays also....as for open mindedness....the exit of the body is an exit and not an entry...once a philosopher twice a pervert...I just don't understand the culture...not to be overly offensive - but I suppose sexual mutations exist and I must tolerate that fact...carry on.
No, You don't agree. You have to say "Sure, I agree" to be politically correct. We are on a public forum after all.
If you truly agreed with me, you wouldn't have posted, "straight and NORMAL natural relationships are of superior quality."
"The exit of the body is an exit and not an entry"
"I suppose sexual mutations exist and I must tolerate that fact."
Although Im no longer wowed by bisexual women personally, I dont think many people view them as sluts just for liking women. Ive heard some be called 'attention whores', but I actually havent ever heard of a woman being called a 5lut as a result of her sexual attraction to other women alone. I dont know your particular preference, but the ONE OR TWO women Ive heard from who would date bisexual men, certainly have never stated it as their preference (as in, the most desireable of all options), the way many men state same sex attraction as a preference they have in women. Additionally, what these women here, and what women I have spoken to recently have said is that: not only will they not date a BISEXUAL man, they wont knowingly date a man who has had sex with another man period, regardless of his sexual orientation. (Rumor has it that there's a difference between the two -- let the 'sex experts' tell it). You just dont hear that kind of stipulation often from men. That is a clear demarcation between men and women. I'd be interested to hear from any man who would say that he wouldnt date a woman who has been intimate with another woman in her past...lol...he'd get laughed out of the building by other men (Including me), and written off as completely gay, insecure or a combination thereof by women.
I respect the fact that your romantic attractions span outside the rigid traditional man/woman constructs, but I think you are one in a million. You're actually the first woman Ive directly spoken to who would even consider such.
A lot of men will sleep with a bisexual woman, but some won't have a relationship with a bisexual. That's not unusual. I think if you do a search about bisexual women, men have said as much on this forum. They don't trust bisexual women because they think they're more likely to cheat. Or in other words, bisexual women are sluts. They're probably insecure. My husband was pretty nervous about me being bisexual and needed reassurances that I wasn't going to ask for a threesome or anything like that. Yeah, he's pretty adorable like that.
When I was single, I didn't look for bisexual men. But I have dated them. I also know I'm not the only woman that has had a preference in the past for gay porn. Two hot guys going at it, is preferable to a hot woman and an ugly dude. I've been told there are less ugly guys in straight porn these days, but I haven't had interest in many years. And now I'm sounding really old. But to return to my point, I KNOW there are women watching gay porn because I've heard other women complain about the ugly guys in straight porn admit they've watched gay porn instead. I never asked them if they would sleep with a bisexual man, but now I'm thinking I should have. My reasoning might be off, but if they enjoy watching it, I wouldn't expect they are grossed out by the idea of sleeping with a bisexual man.
A lot of men will sleep with a bisexual woman, but some won't have a relationship with a bisexual. That's not unusual. I think if you do a search about bisexual women, men have said as much on this forum. They don't trust bisexual women because they think they're more likely to cheat. Or in other words, bisexual women are sluts. They're probably insecure. My husband was pretty nervous about me being bisexual and needed reassurances that I wasn't going to ask for a threesome or anything like that. Yeah, he's pretty adorable like that.
When I was single, I didn't look for bisexual men. But I have dated them. I also know I'm not the only woman that has had a preference in the past for gay porn. Two hot guys going at it, is preferable to a hot woman and an ugly dude. I've been told there are less ugly guys in straight porn these days, but I haven't had interest in many years. And now I'm sounding really old. But to return to my point, I KNOW there are women watching gay porn because I've heard other women complain about the ugly guys in straight porn admit they've watched gay porn instead. I never asked them if they would sleep with a bisexual man, but now I'm thinking I should have. My reasoning might be off, but if they enjoy watching it, I wouldn't expect they are grossed out by the idea of sleeping with a bisexual man.
Hey, do what you do...if you like it, I love it...I know for a fact, you're right about the gay porn thing though. I havent met any in real life, but Ive read on hear, and other message boards about women who like watching two men go back and forth threading each other's needle, so to speak. You might also be right about men who dont date bisexual women. Ive never come across one, but I dont doubt it. I still think the ratios are far more varied between women who will date bisexual men, vs men who will date bisexual women. And I think the reasoning behind each is even more polar. Men who wouldnt date bisexual women seem to be insecure in general about her cheating...which from what you described, would probably be an issue with any woman they date, straight or bisexual, who has a widely diverse range of attributes she finds sexually attractive in a mate. Women who wouldnt date bisexual men, tend to say that they question that mans very manhood IN ADDITION to lingering doubts about promiscuity. I know this is politically incorrect to say, but I also dont care either: But there IS a pretty prevailing and long held perception that men who have had sex with other men have questionable manhood. Whether true or false, the same is not said about women and their womanhood unless they're outwardly butch, and even then, those same exact butch women could find a male partner if they changed their behavior and appearance to attract one, despite their past. The same is not true in similar proportions for a bisexual man or a man who has had sex with another man seeking to attract women. Im not saying either of these stereotypes are right or wrong, Im just saying that there isnt gender parity in regard to sexual orientation either.
Hey, do what you do...if you like it, I love it...I know for a fact, you're right about the gay porn thing though. I havent met any in real life, but Ive read on hear, and other message boards about women who like watching two men go back and forth threading each other's needle, so to speak. You might also be right about men who dont date bisexual women. Ive never come across one, but I dont doubt it. I still think the ratios are far more varied between women who will date bisexual men, vs men who will date bisexual women. And I think the reasoning behind each is even more polar. Men who wouldnt date bisexual women seem to be insecure in general about her cheating...which from what you described, would probably be an issue with any woman they date, straight or bisexual, who has a widely diverse range of attributes she finds sexually attractive in a mate. Women who wouldnt date bisexual men, tend to say that they question their very manhood IN ADDITION to lingering doubts about promiscuity.
I agree. The reasons are different and the ratio's are probably weighted unevenly for bisexual men. I just don't think it's universal.
I don't think men say to other men that they wouldn't be in an LTR with a bisexual woman. They focus on talking about sleeping with her, I think.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I've been told there are less ugly guys in straight porn these days, but I haven't had interest in many years. And now I'm sounding really old. 
But to return to my point, I KNOW there are women watching gay porn because I've heard other women complain about the ugly guys in straight porn admit they've watched gay porn instead. I never asked them if they would sleep with a bisexual man, but now I'm thinking I should have. My reasoning might be off, but if they enjoy watching it, I wouldn't expect they are grossed out by the idea of sleeping with a bisexual man.