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Old 07-12-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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A man and his wife become one flesh.

The bond between a man and a woman is the closest bond between two human beings.

Kids should never be more important than a woman's husband.
Thank you so much for saying this, cause I see so many women have kids and then that is all they put there attention to and the husband fall to the back ground. Not all women but it happens more often then not. When you get married you become one, not three once you have a kid.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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A decent spouse and parent wouldn't love either more than the other. It's a different kind of love. However, emergency situations aside, the day to day WANTS of the kids shouldn't come before the marriage. Kids need to see that they aren't the center of the family and the universe. They need strong role models and to see a good, functional marriage. Without that, what happens when the kids move out? You look at your spouse and have no idea who they are or why you're together? Eff that.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Exactly! and I see it as a different type of love. I can't compare the two.
I just asked my wife and she said, "No contest, you're fired as soon as our youngest graduates college..."

Just kidding, she said just what you said, it's a different king of love. She did say that it's easier to love the kids because they're cuter.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:45 PM
 
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A man and his wife become one flesh.

The bond between a man and a woman is the closest bond between two human beings.

Kids should never be more important than a woman's husband.
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Thank you so much for saying this, cause I see so many women have kids and then that is all they put there attention to and the husband fall to the back ground. Not all women but it happens more often then not. When you get married you become one, not three once you have a kid.
You're a BlackUncle and he's a BlackJack so I think you two should become one, get married and love each other forever.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:48 PM
 
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My kids are becoming independent and don't have time for me, so I'm into men right now (even though I don't have one).
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:50 AM
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As mentioned by others, it is a completely different kind of love for a spouse than a child/children. I have to say though, after 24 years of marriage and 4 children, I think I favored the kids.
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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It should be the kids.
Why? What part of merely being the child entitles that same child to ascend to the top of the totem pole?

Personally, I don't want kids so this has never been much of an issue for me, but even in that hypothetical situation I would not be too happy with someone who was openly willing to state that I was second place beyond the kids.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:28 AM
 
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Why? What part of merely being the child entitles that same child to ascend to the top of the totem pole?

Personally, I don't want kids so this has never been much of an issue for me, but even in that hypothetical situation I would not be too happy with someone who was openly willing to state that I was second place beyond the kids.
I think your post sums it up perfectly - you don't want kids and you reason the way you do. That's fair. Real problem is when children are there and people reason this way. It could be that kids were simply unwanted by the parent(s), it could be the "personal fulfillment" ideology, etc.
I.e. it's quite often seen that people either have a child or don't have a child because of their personal fulfillment, not because of the children themselves or (not) liking to raise a child.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:50 AM
 
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I think your post sums it up perfectly - you don't want kids and you reason the way you do. That's fair. Real problem is when children are there and people reason this way. It could be that kids were simply unwanted by the parent(s), it could be the "personal fulfillment" ideology, etc.
I.e. it's quite often seen that people either have a child or don't have a child because of their personal fulfillment, not because of the children themselves or (not) liking to raise a child.
Why is that a problem, kids should learn early that they are not the center of the universe, in fact they are the bottom of the totem pole, they have done nothing to earn anything yet and are still learning.

By spoiling and pandering to kids we are becoming a nation of wennies, in fact when I was in army basic they were saying its getting really difficult to train young people into the military.
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:47 AM
 
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Why is that a problem, kids should learn early that they are not the center of the universe, in fact they are the bottom of the totem pole, they have done nothing to earn anything yet and are still learning.

By spoiling and pandering to kids we are becoming a nation of wennies, in fact when I was in army basic they were saying its getting really difficult to train young people into the military.
Making children as your priority by spoiling them is something else. Focusing your primary actions to revolve for children's well-being is something else.
Had people been thinking this way, society would've been far more stable in general and would actually fight against the bad habits and weed such occurrences much faster. Instead, society does a different route and even though society progresses - I can argue that social and inter-personal cohesion eroded heavily. I've seen different societies and can tell you that - society of U.S. is far more miserable even though it's arguably the center of 1/3 of total wealth and goods on this planet and is currently the only super-power in political, economical, diplomatic, military and cultural aspect. Each of those aspects are enforcing themselves upon the rest of the planet and shape the rest of the world, yet something is "wrong".
This stems primarily due to bad social/private life that people have.
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