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Old 10-16-2015, 06:55 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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I find this true, from my own observation. We're living in a P-Renaissance. A lot of women are serving it up on a sliver platter for next to nothing these days.
Some would say and I've seen it written here that feminism has done more for P hounds than it probably has even helped women... LOL, an exaggeration of course, but makes ya think.

 
Old 10-16-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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We're living in a P-Renaissance.
Until now, I didn't know what to call this hookup culture - but a P-Renaissance era is perfect.
 
Old 10-16-2015, 07:20 PM
 
Location: TN
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I simply said that it's the golden age of dating for men. Never before in the history of man, has man had to do so little to get with a woman. If anything, women should be upset with other women for giving it up so easily.

Imagine selling a product for $90 as a mom and pop store, then Walmart comes in and sells the same thing for almost nothing. Are you upset with the customer for going to Walmart, or are you upset with Walmart?
Then how is that painful?
 
Old 10-16-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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Then how is that painful?
Yeah, it's pretty great actually. You're right.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 12:42 AM
 
Location: moved
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I simply said that it's the golden age of dating for men. Never before in the history of man, has man had to do so little to get with a woman.
There's much anecdote along these lines, but do we have reliable data? Does this apply mainly to the college-age population, or throughout life?

It's true that modern society offers more dynamism, more opportunity to build something or to invest in something or to market something, perhaps from scratch, or at least without substantial preparation. Things are less orderly. They ripen faster and wither faster. For the agile and the situationally-aware, it is indeed a "golden age". For others, it's a nefarious and unstable time.

Increasingly I am becoming convinced that most people who wish to couple-up, have already done so. This is something to celebrate for those who have achieved success, but simultaneously it makes the venture all the more ridden with obstacles, for those who have not. I wonder if constraints and taboos – perhaps unjust on an individual basis – were useful in producing a kind of leveling effect, holding back the precious while buttressing the obtuse? If this is so, then we find in dating as we find in economics, an increasing level of inequality.
 
Old 10-17-2015, 02:13 AM
 
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I'm not into OLD myself as I'd rather go out and try my luck but does any one actually find love or long standing relationships?

I'm certainly not talking about tinder, POF or badoo that largely revolves around one thing LOL

Cheers.
Yes. OLD does work but it often takes a lot of patience. I've met some quality men but it didn't work out cause of distance, wrong timing etc.

To those saying women are giving up free p, why is this a problem? If they are happy and you're happy, then why complain about it. It's their body after all. Live and let live!
 
Old 10-17-2015, 09:41 PM
 
Location: TN
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There's much anecdote along these lines, but do we have reliable data? Does this apply mainly to the college-age population, or throughout life?

It's true that modern society offers more dynamism, more opportunity to build something or to invest in something or to market something, perhaps from scratch, or at least without substantial preparation. Things are less orderly. They ripen faster and wither faster. For the agile and the situationally-aware, it is indeed a "golden age". For others, it's a nefarious and unstable time.

Increasingly I am becoming convinced that most people who wish to couple-up, have already done so. This is something to celebrate for those who have achieved success, but simultaneously it makes the venture all the more ridden with obstacles, for those who have not. I wonder if constraints and taboos – perhaps unjust on an individual basis – were useful in producing a kind of leveling effect, holding back the precious while buttressing the obtuse? If this is so, then we find in dating as we find in economics, an increasing level of inequality.
I want so badly to root around in that brain of your's. Have you published anything?

As for the coupling up, even as a married person, I think some sectors of society put way too much pressure on single adults to view a committed relationship as some kind of measure of success. Honestly it takes more luck than anything. As screwed up as I am and looking at myself on paper I should not be where I am with 10 yrs of marriage and 3 kids.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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To those saying women are giving up free p, why is this a problem? If they are happy and you're happy, then why complain about it. It's their body after all. Live and let live!
Because Americans in general are suffering the emotional and physical legacy of generations of Puritanical Hypocrisy. I can't tell you how many men I've known who tell me that once they have succeeded in getting a woman in bed they lose all respect for her, and never want to see her again. Of course I also meet women that this has happened to as well. I never read "50 Shades of Grey" because I am not about to plunk down hard earned cash to read mommy porn. The Portland library system had 114 copies spread across 50 branches with 1420 holds on the first copy returned 2 years(!) after the book was out. That's how Americans have sex. They fantasize and read about it. The percent that are actually doing it with any regularity is a drop in the bucket.
 
Old 10-18-2015, 02:24 PM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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Yes. OLD does work but it often takes a lot of patience. I've met some quality men but it didn't work out cause of distance, wrong timing etc.

To those saying women are giving up free p, why is this a problem? If they are happy and you're happy, then why complain about it. It's their body after all. Live and let live!
 
Old 10-18-2015, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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It is never apparent from a casual physical observation how many (or now many not) men a woman has slept with before meeting you. Why does it matter? My DW has had more guys than I have had women. She also started having sex a good 6 years before I did. That is simply a function of the truism that men pursue and women make the choices. There is a name (an not a nice one) for when a man does not accept a woman's rejection or does not seek her approval to start a sexual encounter. I am sure glad that I didn't stand on some kind of outmoded sense of propriety and reject her for having more experience. I would have missed out on a wonderful life partner.

But you guys do what you want. Don't mess it up for everyone else though with your ambivalence. If you think women with a sexual past are ****'s, fine. Don't date them, don't bed them and then discard them like something you were just thinking about buying. Have nothing to do with them. Leave them mentally healthy for a more open minded kind of guy. Nor should any guy feel obligated to marry a woman because he has slept with her once or a few times. Extremes, good or bad never make good sense.
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