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Old 08-03-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Not all Christians are that way.

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Old 08-03-2013, 04:51 PM
 
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Not all Christians are that way.
The vector may not the same magnitude, but the direction is the same.
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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Not all Christians are that way.
It's the bigotry and hatred that Christians are up against more and more.

What is interesting is that the OP and others who condemn Christian parents for teaching their beliefs to their children would very likely have a whole different opinion of Islamic parents, or Hindu parents, or Wiccan parents, etc doing the same.

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Old 08-03-2013, 06:50 PM
 
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Good grief. I can't believe that NC could be worse than GA, but it sure sounds like it. I was called a liar when I objected to the Bible on a lectern stand as I entered my 8th grader's classroom for back to school night. Nobody believed that existed in a public school. Oh hell yeah, it does.

I told my kids to smile and refuse to be engaged in those conversations. When the baseball coach was introducing the selected team, he made a point of saying which church they attended. My 9th grader pleaded with me not to say a word, so I didn't.

I have no problem at all with the religious leaning of the south, and they don't really seem to have a problem with me. I do abhor the lack of separation between church and state in this area.
This was actually in Texas, not NC
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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It's the bigotry and hatred that Christians are up against more and more.
What bigotry and hatred? Have you been denied a job or housing because you are a Christian? Have you been told you can't vote because you're a Christian? Have your children been denied an education because they are Christians? Have you been denied a car loan or a house loan because you are a Christian?

Do your children have to stand in a line for a drink of water from the "Christians" fountain?
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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But they force them to go to school every Monday through Friday --- what if the kid says he doesn't believe in going to school or thinks the teachers are stupid? You just decide to be a wimpy parent and back down and let the child dictate the rules?

Or a child that doesn't believe he should have to pick up after himself? Are you going to be consistent and say you're not going to dictate what he must do? Or a child that uses words like the "n" work or other such words. Consistency would mean you cannot force your child not to use them if he believes he should.
There is a difference between forcing a child to do something and forcing them to believe something.

I can force him to clean up the kitchen.

I can force him to go to religious school.

I cannot make him believe what the Rabbi/teacher says at religious school. A person has complete control over their own beliefs. There is no parental rule that can force a person to believe something just because they are your child.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:48 PM
 
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It's the bigotry and hatred that Christians are up against more and more.

What is interesting is that the OP and others who condemn Christian parents for teaching their beliefs to their children would very likely have a whole different opinion of Islamic parents, or Hindu parents, or Wiccan parents, etc doing the same.
I don't think there is a problem with anyone teaching their beliefs to their children. My sons were required to attend religious school. However, I cannot force them to believe what they are taught. That is a completely different issue. One of my sons has declared himself an atheist. What do you propose I do to force a 17 year old to believe something?
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:53 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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What bigotry and hatred? Have you been denied a job or housing because you are a Christian? Have you been told you can't vote because you're a Christian? Have your children been denied an education because they are Christians? Have you been denied a car loan or a house loan because you are a Christian?

Do your children have to stand in a line for a drink of water from the "Christians" fountain?

I think that the "hatred against Christian" thing is fabricated. Christianity, in it's many permutations, remains the default religion in the US and Canada.

I've heard this from certain sectors - the same people who object to "Happy Holidays!" in December.

There *are* other holidays celebrated between Thanksgiving and New Years, other than Christmas. As a culture, I think we need to be accepting of other religions.
"Happy Holidays" is what I say unless I know for sure what that person celebrates.

I still have the right, in my own home; to raise my own kids in the religion that I practice.

Being likened to a crazy Fundamentalist Christian who puts a placard on a five year old, forcing them to boycott abortion is offensive on so many levels that I don't know where to begin.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Nicely said

You are a very wise mom

I think it's only natural for parents to be disappointed when their kids leave the religion they were brought up in.

But most parents don't let that disappointment prevent them from being supportive of their kids.

It's sad when this issue becomes a line in the sand and causes family to reject one another.

I would make me disappointed. But nothing on earth would cause me to reject my children.

NOTHING.
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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No, I would force them to be hypocrites. What kind of a question is this?
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