Josh Duggar caught again..... now with an Ashley Madison account (Christianity, Christian)
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Are you speaking from 1st hand knowledge or just whatever stories you read about the "dangers of fundamentalism"? If the definition of fundamentalist is a Bible believing Christian then I know several churches who do not subscribe to such legalism
First hand knowledge.... but where does one go to read the stories about the dangers of fundamentalism, Jeffy? Do those stories include the fact that fundamentalists want to teach American school children that the earth is 6,000 years old and Adam and Eve were walking around with the dinosaurs? Do those stories reveal that fundies want impose their version of shiria law on the citizens of the United States and to deny Constitutional rights to same-sex couples and shove the LGBTQ community back in the closet? Excellent. Knowledge is power and those stories should be made known so everyone will know just what the fundamentalists want to impose on our country.
There are not enough Gothardites / Quiverfull people to feed the Duggar money machine, so they have to answer to a broader audience. I don't think they're going to get their new reality show, particularly after this latest revelation, and I don't think Josh is going to find forgiveness, and not even the contrived / forced forgiveness that his wife will doubtless afford him is going to make him feel absolved. Things will never be the same again between them, his life will never recover its former status.
Yes I realize some pull it off ... Jimmy Swaggert and many others have survived huge scandals. But even they never reached their former glory either.
The Duggars needed lots of dough to finance their gargantuan family and I suspect the TV show was pretty central to that. Between the collapse of the show and the undoubtedly deleterious effects on Jim-Bob's real estate business, the end of whatever political ambitions he might have, and the end of a great deal of his influence, it may be that he's forced to face the reality of how impractical, much less just plain wrong, his profligate baby-factory ways are.
The Duggars probably don't face excommunication, and even if they do, some other congregation will take them in. But they have definitely peaked as a cultural phenomenon, and that as well as their loss of the ability to have more money than sense, are good things.
Bill Gothard went down in a sexual scandal of his own about a year ago. The dude is like 80 years old. I find it highly suspicious that a guy waits until he's 80 to start being a perv unless he has dementia.
My parents forced me to go to one of his seminars in the 70s that were so popular. As a high school student I came away pretty turned off by him even though I was a devout Christian at the time.
With all of the scrambling by the Duggars to bring about a new TV series to fund their unrealistic and 666% unaffordable and unethical child breeding program, you would think TLC might consider piloting a new series about the dangers of religious cults, and the Quiverfull movement, or perhaps a side piece about their religious leader's own sexual improprieties, and scandals of his own doing.
Airing a program to counsel sex abuse victims, run by a family who harbors abusers, denies proper treatment, and and makes excuses for offenders, is like airing a program showing children being forced into sex therapy run by Catholic priests.
There are not enough Gothardites / Quiverfull people to feed the Duggar money machine, so they have to answer to a broader audience. I don't think they're going to get their new reality show, particularly after this latest revelation, and I don't think Josh is going to find forgiveness, and not even the contrived / forced forgiveness that his wife will doubtless afford him is going to make him feel absolved. Things will never be the same again between them, his life will never recover its former status.
Yes I realize some pull it off ... Jimmy Swaggert and many others have survived huge scandals. But even they never reached their former glory either.
The Duggars needed lots of dough to finance their gargantuan family and I suspect the TV show was pretty central to that. Between the collapse of the show and the undoubtedly deleterious effects on Jim-Bob's real estate business, the end of whatever political ambitions he might have, and the end of a great deal of his influence, it may be that he's forced to face the reality of how impractical, much less just plain wrong, his profligate baby-factory ways are.
The Duggars probably don't face excommunication, and even if they do, some other congregation will take them in. But they have definitely peaked as a cultural phenomenon, and that as well as their loss of the ability to have more money than sense, are good things.
Vary astute observations, Mordant. Wish I could rep you for this but....you know the drill.
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Rumor has it Josh will be counseling the girl's division (ages 13 and younger)
Well so far he's run the gamut of asking for forgiveness for being a pedophile, now he's asking for forgiveness for being an adulterer, I wonder what's next?
Well so far he's run the gamut of asking for forgiveness for being a pedophile, now he's asking for forgiveness for being an adulterer, I wonder what's next?
Bill Gothard went down in a sexual scandal of his own about a year ago. The dude is like 80 years old. I find it highly suspicious that a guy waits until he's 80 to start being a perv unless he has dementia.
My parents forced me to go to one of his seminars in the 70s that were so popular. As a high school student I came away pretty turned off by him even though I was a devout Christian at the time.
He did not wait until he was 80. It started decades ago. Plenty of stories if you google.
He admitted to being unfaithful to his wife. He seemed to draw a distinction between porn use and being unfaithful. Perhaps I read it wrong, but I assumed that was his admission of guilt regarding Ashley Madison. To be honest...I don't care if he was unfaithful through a site like that or by picking up a bimbo in the bar. He violated his vow to his wife. I find that disgusting. Even if it was "only" porn use, I find that to be sinful activity and I condemn him for it.
Having said that, I will again point out that none of us are without sin -- and that there is forgiveness in Christ.
Let's do away with this forgiving nonsense and start with some accountability. The guy should be shunned and dumped by everyone in his family. Let him find some new victims to betray. I love this statement: "and now I have re-broken their trust."
Like there was ever any doubt that we were going to learn new and bad things about this poor sap whose mind was consciously destroyed by his Reason-hating parents.
And now we have to endure 19 years and counting of Duggar dysfunction as each of their Stepford children, forced to live in the real world with mystically crippled minds, commits act after act that will require forgiveness and mental health assistance, probably on our dime now that they can't fleece the brain dead sycophants for TV money.
And this just in: The double dealing dysfunctional Duggars have modified Josh's original statement to delete the mention of his addiction to pornography. And also removed my favorite line: "And now I have re-broken their trust".
The statement is now more pusillanimous and putrescent, indicating that the broken Duggar information-washing appliance has just entered another spin cycle.
As a public service, here is the original statement:
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"I have been the biggest hypocrite ever. While espousing faith and family values, I have secretly over the last several years been viewing pornography on the internet and this became a secret addiction and I became unfaithful to my wife.
I am so ashamed of the double life that I have been living and am grieved for the hurt, pain and disgrace my sin has caused my wife and family, and most of all Jesus and all those who profess faith in Him.
I brought hurt and a reproach to my family, close friends and the fans of our show with my actions that happened when I was 14-15 years old, and now I have re-broken their trust.
The last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, I was hiding my own personal failings.
As I am learning the hard way, we have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. I deeply regret all hurt I have caused so many by being such a bad example.
I humbly ask for your forgiveness. Please pray for my precious wife Anna and our family during this time."
And this just in: The double dealing dysfunctional Duggars have modified Josh's original statement to delete the mention of his addiction to pornography. And also removed my favorite line: "And now I have re-broken their trust".
The statement is now more pusillanimous and putrescent, indicating that the broken Duggar information-washing appliance has just entered another spin cycle.
As a public service, here is the original statement:
Thank you for catching that. What most people do not realize is that these people use professionally hired spin doctors and PR people who make a career out of choosing words, deflecting questions, and using other psychological tactics that attempt to manipulate how they are perceived, and the tightly controlled script they follow.
There is a reason politicians like Huckabee, who operate through the same political deception machine, sent their personal Decepticon liaisons in to help the Duggar camp after the first sex scandal let-loose earlier this year.
The removal of sentences and tweaking of words is part of their whitewashing m.o.
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