Do theists not comprehend the concept of disbelief in God? (cult, verse)
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However, nothing about reality actually changes when you focus on the positive. What changes is your attention ......Reality is what it is; our response to it is the only thing we have control of. We don't create reality; we manage our responses to it. ...not being so foolish as to discount the unpleasant stuff. Our job is not to deny reality or force a particular perception of it or to control it; it is simply to be present with it without judgment.
nope
your beliefs create your reality
literally. physically. actually.
your thoughts + your feelings ------> produce your daily life.
every moment without fail.
that is the power each and every human being has. that is why it behooves us to be very conscious and discerning in choosing our thoughts, speech, actions, beliefs, and feelings.
that has nothing to do with blame, and everything to do with responsibility.
please understand the difference and distinction between blame and responsibility.
blaming is about being a victim, there is no power whatsoever in that, nor is there any dignity, nor is there any growth. whereas responsibility is filled with power and choices and growth and improvement.
That is essentially right. And most us us have been educated about what are the Right Things to do. But I think we need a bit more understanding as we are still going badly wrong. We secularists believe that using rationality more and Faith in this or that god -claim less is the way to go. And that's what we are pushing for.
And we can really do without Mystic's table -banging, facepalm -slapping faith -based very personal opinions presented as Fact.
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE SUPERNATURAL! Forgive my emotional outburst, but I tire of having to say this to every single poster who uses it against my posts. Sylvian seems to get it, but is having as much difficulty communicating it as I do. As children of God, our role is to reproduce God. In that sense, that is what God "wants." But it has nothing to do with claiming any special knowledge about what God wants.
*sigh* My old mate, yes we know that, and have agreed it. We use these labels to flag up ideas as we discuss. We agree with you that if some wonder -working cosmic divinity turned out to be true it would be regarded as part of nature and not 'super' to it. We have that in mind as we discuss 'supernatural' claims that are broadly speculations about a reality that science has no information or hypotheses about. Your reminder was really not needed.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
nope
your beliefs create your reality
literally. physically. actually.
your thoughts + your feelings ------> produce your daily life.
every moment without fail.
that is the power each and every human being has. that is why it behooves us to be very conscious and discerning in choosing our thoughts, speech, actions, beliefs, and feelings.
that has nothing to do with blame, and everything to do with responsibility.
please understand the difference and distinction between blame and responsibility.
blaming is about being a victim, there is no power whatsoever in that, nor is there any dignity, nor is there any growth. whereas responsibility is filled with power and choices and growth and improvement.
So, what you are saying, is that if it is true for you, then it is true?
your beliefs create your reality
literally. physically. actually.
I know that's your assertion and that is is in some quarters a popular one. But if I am meant to take you literally (and it appears I am, since you say "literally, physically, actually", I cannot agree. In fact it is quite the opposite. My daily life is what it is, and I respond to it accordingly. There are bad, indifferent, good, better and best responses, to be sure. Chronically bad responses make matters worse, to be sure. Nothing succeeds like success, to be sure. I cannot control what comes my way, in any literal way, but I can certainly control how I respond to it.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
that has nothing to do with blame, and everything to do with responsibility.
please understand the difference and distinction between blame and responsibility.
I understand the difference, but a decade or so back when I read The Secret to see what all the "you create your own reality" fuss was about, I spent some time on discussion forums centered around the book and I noted a marked tendency of the book's proponents to take "you create your own reality" to its entirely self-consistent conclusion: if you create your own reality then whatever is awry in your life is what you created, and therefore, cry me a river because it's self inflicted. On some level you probably want it. There was also a popular argument similar to Christian pentecostalism's "you don't have enough faith".
If you don't take that attitude then you're to be commended. But it is an attitude that can be expected when you shift responsibility from where it belongs (our responses to circumstances) to where it doesn't (our circumstances).
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE SUPERNATURAL! Forgive my emotional outburst, but I tire of having to say this to every single poster who uses it against my posts. Sylvian seems to get it, but is having as much difficulty communicating it as I do. As children of God, our role is to reproduce God. In that sense, that is what God "wants." But it has nothing to do with claiming any special knowledge about what God wants.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE SUPERNATURAL! Forgive my emotional outburst, but I tire of having to say this to every single poster who uses it against my posts. Sylvian seems to get it, but is having as much difficulty communicating it as I do. As children of God, our role is to reproduce God. In that sense, that is what God "wants." But it has nothing to do with claiming any special knowledge about what God wants.
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Originally Posted by TRANSPONDER
*sigh* My old mate, yes we know that, and have agreed it. We use these labels to flag up ideas as we discuss. We agree with you that if some wonder -working cosmic divinity turned out to be true it would be regarded as part of nature and not 'super' to it. We have that in mind as we discuss 'supernatural' claims that are broadly speculations about a reality that science has no information or hypotheses about. Your reminder was really not needed.
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Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8
Ohhhh...You let me know your weak spot.
If you never expose your vulnerabilities, you will never know who would try to take advantage of them.
Why not answer the topic of the thread ? Did you see any disparaging comments in my OP?
Come back when you are capable of answering the questions of the OP .
The title of your thread is disparaging and if you really read what I wrote, I used *Your* words from *Your* original post I just changed the word to atheist.........
So you just proved you do not understand your own question.....
So why not answer the topic of the response and come back when you are capable of answering your own question in the OP......
If you never expose your vulnerabilities, you will never know who would try to take advantage of them.
The question to ask yourself is why you have them. Why does it bother you when someone says "supernatural"? Are you defensive, maybe even prideful? I embrace the titled of mentally diseased apostate. They are just words. Maybe you should try some Zen or something and learn to detach from outcomes.
The question to ask yourself is why you have them. Why does it bother you when someone says "supernatural"? Are you defensive, maybe even prideful? I embrace the titled of mentally diseased apostate. They are just words. Maybe you should try some Zen or something and learn to detach from outcomes.
The title of your thread is disparaging and if you really read what I wrote, I used *Your* words from *Your* original post I just changed the word to atheist.........
So you just proved you do not understand your own question.....
So why not answer the topic of the response and come back when you are capable of answering your own question in the OP......
There is nothing disparaging in the title , and I understand my own OP perfectly . When you have the courage to address the OP please feel free to return and try . I do not bother with those who lack the courage to first try and answer to the topic of the thread they come into .
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*sigh* My old mate, yes we know that, and have agreed it. We use these labels to flag up ideas as we discuss. We agree with you that if some wonder -working cosmic divinity turned out to be true it would be regarded as part of nature and not 'super' to it. We have that in mind as we discuss 'supernatural' claims that are broadly speculations about a reality that science has no information or hypotheses about. Your reminder was really not needed.
