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Old 05-23-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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Actually, I think the people that believe the "quotes" from "God" and/or Jesus in your holy book are nuts.
Yes. You've made that abundantly clear. We're all familiar with the fact that you have an anti-Christian agenda and want to tell all of C-D about it.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Yes. You've made that abundantly clear. We're all familiar with the fact that you have an anti-Christian agenda and want to tell all of C-D about it.
Da Dude? Heck no! He's a good friend to Christians. The agenda is about fundamentalists of all stripes.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Da Dude? Heck no! He's a good friend to Christians. The agenda is about fundamentalists of all stripes.

You see clearly. Bfun has problems with the planks in his eyes.
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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Da Dude? Heck no! He's a good friend to Christians. The agenda is about fundamentalists of all stripes.
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Old 05-24-2018, 04:42 AM
 
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Da Dude? Heck no! He's a good friend to Christians. The agenda is about fundamentalists of all stripes.
Kaboom! <clap>
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Old 05-24-2018, 05:18 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Yes. You've made that abundantly clear. We're all familiar with the fact that you have an anti-Christian agenda and want to tell all of C-D about it.
And so he should. Christianity is a social evil - as the posts that you come up (quite beside the evident bitterness and hate) with make perfectly clear - and all right -thinking people should be working together to eject it as a social influence. It is our mission, and so why shouldn't it be his?
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That's because God has stopped speaking through prophets. If someone tells you that God told them something, then they're lying, or they're nuts.
"Give them enough rope...".It's not an Axiom exactly, but so often if you let a Fundy Bible -apologists talk long enough he'll debunk himself without any help from us.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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And so he should. Christianity is a social evil - as the posts that you come up (quite beside the evident bitterness and hate) with make perfectly clear - and all right -thinking people should be working together to eject it as a social influence. It is our mission, and so why shouldn't it be his?

"Give them enough rope...".It's not an Axiom exactly, but so often if you let a Fundy Bible -apologists talk long enough he'll debunk himself without any help from us.
I'm sorry, I don't believe anything I've said indicates that any harsh attitude, nor does it suggest that I've "hung myself".

He has revealed his Words in the bible. I stand by that. I also stand by the fact that he left a church to make disciples and to bring people to faith.
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:19 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I'm sorry, I don't believe anything I've said indicates that any harsh attitude, nor does it suggest that I've "hung myself".

He has revealed his Words in the bible. I stand by that. I also stand by the fact that he left a church to make disciples and to bring people to faith.
You hung yourself by dismissing anyone who prophecies today as being wrong and deluded - just because of what you believe. If you believe this on Faith, it is no more than your opinion. If oy believe it in 'evidence' you are being selective about when evidence counts.

You just hung yourself.

Of course, denouncing unilaterally anyone who thinks differently from you won't seem like bitterness and hate to you.
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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He has revealed his Words in the bible. I stand by that. I also stand by the fact that he left a church to make disciples and to bring people to faith.
The part that stands out for me is "he left". Would a loving all powerful god leave in the first place, let alone leaving behind such scant and unverifiable 'evidence'. The 'book' evidence is very much man written, making it somewhat questionable, wouldn't you agree?
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Old 05-25-2018, 06:02 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I shall be very interested to see whether he does, because that is another "noose".

If he says it is written by men, then why should we believe it? If it is (transmitted) word of God, why is it full of errors (cue discrepancy debate).

"Inspired" by God is just an evasion. It doesn't matter whether a biography was 'inspired' by a famous person or not. What matters is whether it is correct or not. If you can show that it isn't correct, it doesn't matter whether the writer never spoke to the person, but did decent research (1). If it is wrong, then whether some being dictated it or they just wrote it themselves, it is not deserving of credence.

We of course get the 'good ideas in it' argument, but this is no more than a feeble effort to keep afloat an old wreck that is rapidly sinking.


(1) I consider "Testimony" to be that - not dictated by Shostakovich, but very well researched.
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