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View Poll Results: Does God change?
No, He is the Lord, and changes not. 24 51.06%
Obviously! And it's not sacrilegious to say so either. 4 8.51%
God is the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and may His Noodly Self never change. Fettuccini. 16 34.04%
Yes, and about time too. Time for Holy Tide with color safe bleach! 3 6.38%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-02-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Actually, no, you don't get it. But that's ok. It doesn't matter anyway.
OK...thanks.
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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God will not interfere with FREE WILL. Not now, not throughout eternity. Man did those things, not God. He has rules and those who break them, will suffer the penalty. God is Love and anything not done in love is not of God.
Not according to your bible...

Exodus 4:21
And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

Deuteronomy 2:30

But Sihon king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him: for the LORD thy God hardened his spirit, and made his heart obstinate, that he might deliver him into thy hand, as appeareth this day.
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:42 PM
 
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Just goes to show that the bible is not 100% correct.
Oh ok... so as Predos asked, how do you know that you are interpreting it more accurately than the writers of the bible?
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:09 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Actually, no, you don't get it. But that's ok. It doesn't matter anyway.
What a great way to practice and express your religion! Anything that you don't like, just disregard or tell others that they just don't understand it! And it doesn't matter anyway! Perfect! Can't ever be shown doubt or be made to consider a question you don't like.

To me, this is not faith. It is a lack of resolve to face life as it comes at you and to stand up for what you believe in.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Oh ok... so as Predos asked, how do you know that you are interpreting it more accurately than the writers of the bible?
There is nothing written that is 100% accurate, even what I believe.
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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What a great way to practice and express your religion! Anything that you don't like, just disregard or tell others that they just don't understand it! And it doesn't matter anyway! Perfect! Can't ever be shown doubt or be made to consider a question you don't like.

To me, this is not faith. It is a lack of resolve to face life as it comes at you and to stand up for what you believe in.
Well, when I express my beliefs, I am made fun of and called things I would never say to anyone. I said it didn't matter anyway because it wouldn't do any good spiritually. What does it matter what happened in the past? You can't change it. You can't relive it as it was. How is it going to change based on various belief systems?
I can handle criticism in any form. It's those who have shown me disrespect that I have a hard time with and sometimes, they don't deserve an answer.
I've anwsered the OP's question. And I spelled it out for dcashley but apparently he didn't understand the answer. Re read it and that is my answer.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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My teachings teach me about God.
Okay, not to be mean, but HUH? That simply doesn't make any kind of sense.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Not according to your bible...

Exodus 4:21
And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.

Deuteronomy 2:30
But Sihon king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him: for the LORD thy God hardened his spirit, and made his heart obstinate, that he might deliver him into thy hand, as appeareth this day.
THANK YOU. Please, fellow Christians, explain again how God doesn't interfere with human free will, and how the bible is 100 percent true.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:20 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Well, obviously God can do whatever He likes...He's God! What's I don't get is there are all the Scriptures that say that God is the same forever, He does not change, ect...but the Bible seems filled with stories of God that say the exact opposite, that God did indeed change. And if He did that because a person changed, shouldn't He have foreseen that?
Well, if you give me some examples of when you think that God changed then I would answer your question according to what I think.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit
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Well, if you give me some examples of when you think that God changed then I would answer your question according to what I think.
Genesis 6:6, “The LORD was grieved that He had made man on the earth, and His heart was filled with pain.” Also, Jonah 3:10 which says, “When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, He had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction He had threatened.” Similarly, Exodus 32:14 proclaims, “Then the LORD relented and did not bring on His people the disaster He had threatened.” These verses speak of the Lord “repenting” of something, and seem to be contrary to verses that teach that God is unchanging.

Many would say this just means He changed His mind...but obviously that means He had a CHANGE of heart. Then there's the flood...why create all those people to just destroy them? If you say it's because of people changing, then I say...how did He not know ahead of time that they would change? Why would HE need to change?
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