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As of now, folks: "The Constitution is a farce!" Specially that Sep-E-ration part!
Oh BTW, Robin, the majority of American schools, long long ago, where, yep, started by Christians, because that was the dominant cultural norm. That's all. Hardly a basis for educational basics, elsewise we'd also be rubbing bear grease on our wounds,and making poultices out of mustard to rid ourselves of the Swine Flu.
Our founding fathers recognized the danger of a state-instituted religion, of state-support for a particularly narrow perspective and the vastly intolerant points of view that accompany Christianity and most other organized religions, such as they and their forefathers had so rightly fled from in repressive Europe. You remember? The Spanish Inquisition, a Christian high-point in "education"?
Christianity is NOT narrow in it's perspective, you might yell? Well, your own loud proclamations, and those of many other fundies on C-D, deny that defence.
"Evolution is an unfounded theory! Not one wit of evidence!"
Yep, especially in the face of all that Creationist "scientific evidence".
Oooohhh! I know I'm impressed!
Who said it recently? Oh yeah; it was me:
Science abandons absurdity".
And, thus, moves on.
No the founding fathers did not want european christian oppression, but saw that the free expression of Christianity was a better method. Then we have all the pagan faiths coming in and demanding equality which they did not deserve. Catholocism was even rejected as a pagan faith because of its doctrine and lack of Biblical adherance.
There is plenty of evidence for creationism if it wasnt for the government and schools trying to shove evolution down everyone throats that evidence would be seen rather than oppressed.
Interesting this very topic of discussion (not hugging but theories taught in school) was held on The View today in hot topics. Personally I think as it is a public institution then science should be taught. I think there is a balance between the two, but if as a parent you disagree with evolution then either send your child to a private school OR have the discussion at home about your beliefs while they are studying evolution.
Evolution is not science, it is a farsical attempt at science.
No the founding fathers did not want european christian oppression, but saw that the free expression of Christianity was a better method. Then we have all the pagan faiths coming in and demanding equality which they did not deserve. Catholocism was even rejected as a pagan faith because of its doctrine and lack of Biblical adherance.
There is plenty of evidence for creationism if it wasnt for the government and schools trying to shove evolution down everyone throats that evidence would be seen rather than oppressed.
Yes as would many others, and dont worry about quotes for your opinion because we both know that there are quotes for both sides concerning all the founding fathers.
You do know that wikipedia is not always accurate dont you, yet you use it to back yourself up.
"Missed it byyyyy thaaat much" according to what metric? Science? If this is what you are using to judge the other religions claims as less than true, why don't we just stick with science then?
I am interested in your specific objective reasoning as to why Christianity's creation accounts are more valid than other religions. Essentially, I am asking you to back up your subjective assertions with examples that are not purely of personal opinion.
I dont think anyone can.
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No because other religions are just theories while Christianity is fact.
Because the Christian view of creationism lines up with scientific evidence.
This is your opinion, but all religions are not equal, Christianity is superior to all because we have Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, and plenty of scientific evidence for our beliefs.
REALLY? Wow. If you can provide such ideas as Christianity's THEORY of Creationism as being real, why dont you go to the Supreme Court of the USA and show them? Wow, you would win like the Nobel Prize for an amazing discovery.
Seriously, what are your facts?
And how dare you say all other religions are not equal. Man you must hate America. Where all faiths are considered equal.
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No a theory is a theory and a fact is a fact, pay attention and stop twisting.
The one thing you got right.
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No the founding fathers did not want european christian oppression, but saw that the free expression of Christianity was a better method. Then we have all the pagan faiths coming in and demanding equality which they did not deserve. Catholocism was even rejected as a pagan faith because of its doctrine and lack of Biblical adherance.
There is plenty of evidence for creationism if it wasnt for the government and schools trying to shove evolution down everyone throats that evidence would be seen rather than oppressed.
Excuse...me? What the hell do you mean by "did not deserve".
If I am getting this right, you are a bigot who thinks everything should be run by Christianity and you dont like to hear about science and dont have facts to support your conclusions.
As I said, if you have so much proof that Creationism is scientific, go show the Supreme Court. And while you are at it, you could learn some respect.
REALLY? Wow. If you can provide such ideas as Christianity's THEORY of Creationism as being real, why dont you go to the Supreme Court of the USA and show them? Wow, you would win like the Nobel Prize for an amazing discovery.
They have been provided and rejected, not because they are false or invalid but because they are considered religious and are therefor rejected on that alone.
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Seriously, what are your facts?
Look around you they are everywhere.
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And how dare you say all other religions are not equal. Man you must hate America. Where all faiths are considered equal.
control yourself, you are making false accusations. I love america but not where it is or is going and no all faiths are not created equal.
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Excuse...me? What the hell do you mean by "did not deserve".
Because they are false.
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If I am getting this right, you are a bigot who thinks everything should be run by Christianity and you dont like to hear about science and dont have facts to support your conclusions.
Think what you like but you are wrong. I love science and I have plenty of facts to support my conclusions but as your own bigoted opinion will not let you see this, it will also not let you understand any facts I provide.
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As I said, if you have so much proof that Creationism is scientific, go show the Supreme Court. And while you are at it, you could learn some respect.
I am not the one being disrespectful here, you really need to heed your own words.
They have been provided and rejected, not because they are false or invalid but because they are considered religious and are therefor rejected on that alone.
Look around you they are everywhere.
control yourself, you are making false accusations. I love america but not where it is or is going and no all faiths are not created equal.
Because they are false.
Think what you like but you are wrong. I love science and I have plenty of facts to support my conclusions but as your own bigoted opinion will not let you see this, it will also not let you understand any facts I provide.
I am not the one being disrespectful here, you really need to heed your own words.
So dont just tell me you have facts.
Provide them!
Lets see this.
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Wow, you would win like the Nobel Prize for an amazing discovery. 