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Campo old horse. Sit thee down mate and let me explain.
See.....the dudes that wrote the NT were well aware of the prophecies in the OT so, when they wrote the NT, they wrote it in a way that made it look as if the man-god hero in the NT did actually fullfil the prophecies of the OT. It really is such a simple thing to do old beast.
And how did they write in the Scriptures that the Jewish people would return from a world wide exile near the end of time? How did they know they would return to the land of Israel, and retake Jerusalem? And how did they know that this event would anger many nations around the world? And how did they know that the Jews that returned from this exile would want their third temple rebuilt? And how did they know that these returning Jews would first settle in south Israel, and Jerusalem second?
How did they know all of this would happen, taking into consideration that this prophecy was written 2600 years ago? And how did they know that when this prophecy was being fulfilled, that at the same time the nations East of Israel would be able to raise up an army of 200 million men?
And how is it that both Newton and other Christians stated that we would see all of this come to pass, before the return of Christ? And how did Newton know that near the year 2060 such a reality would exist?
You can always make an arguement that the New Testament prophecies of Jesus were faked. It's a lot harder to make the same arguement for the end of time Old Testament prophecies. And yet I believe that the non believers have trained themselves to dumb down enought, to ignore this reality.
Campo old horse. Sit thee down mate and let me explain.
See.....the dudes that wrote the NT were well aware of the prophecies in the OT so, when they wrote the NT, they wrote it in a way that made it look as if the man-god hero in the NT did actually fullfil the prophecies of the OT. It really is such a simple thing to do old beast.
How did they know they would return to the land of Israel, and retake Jerusalem?
But that's just the point; they didn't "know." They were just repeating the old hope. When Israel was established (or re-established, depending who's holding forth) in 1948, it was the result of a chain of events over the previous century--it didn't have anything to do with NT prophecy.
But that's just the point; they didn't "know." They were just repeating the old hope. When Israel was established (or re-established, depending who's holding forth) in 1948, it was the result of a chain of events over the previous century--it didn't have anything to do with NT prophecy.
Well, the Bible never said it was an old hope. The GOD of the Bible tells us, (THIS WILL HAPPEN). Only people like you try to dismiss the prophecy as an old hope. I'm not sure how some can go so deep into their denial of the facts. Especially, when they have spent little time considering the facts. So I will ask the question again. If they did not know. How were they able to accurately predict that the Jewish people would first take south Israel first which they did in 1948, and then accurately predict that Jerusalem would be taken second which happened in 1967? If they did not know. How were they able to predict that when this event would occur that the nations to the East of Israel would be able to produce an army of 200 million men? China alone said they could do this if the need presented itself back in 1960. And strangely the number given, matched the Biblical number. And if they did not know. How were they able to accurately predict that in the day when the Jewish people returned to the land of Israel and Jerusalem, this event would anger many nations around the world. And if they did not know. How did they accurately predict that the Jewish people of that time would be demanding for their third temple to be rebuilt? And if they did not know. How did they know that when the Jewish people would return to their land, they would raise up such a powerful army that the other nations would find that Israel was like an immovable rock? The God of the Bible tells us that even if the whole world gathers themselves to push the Jewish people from their land in that day, He personally will defend them. The only people who were printing books about Israels future were the Christians who believed the prophecies of the Bible. And in the 1600s and 1800s Christians were writing books and informing people that before Christ would return, we would first see the return of the Jewish people to the land of Israel.
And yes, there was a chain of events that allow for all of this to happen. Yet long before that chain of events ever occured. The Bible said all of this would happen 2600 years ago. So it may be true that the writers of the Bible did not know about such things, yet it appears the true author of the Bible did.
Sir Isaac Newton, who is considered by many to be one of the worlds greatest scientist, also had a great intrest in Bible prophecy. This may come as a shock to some. Yet recent 300 year old manuscripts that were written by Newton, have been revealed to the public.
Based on the prophecies found in the Books of Daniel, and Revelation. Newton came to the conclusion that the second Coming of Jesus Christ could occur around the year 2060 A.D.. It was also his belief, that around this time, we would see the return of the Jewish people to land of Israel, and their return to the city of Jerusalem. Newton also believed, that the Jewish people would rebuild their third Temple on Mt. Moriah, and all of these events would lead us to the final battle of Armageddon.
What I find most interesting here. Is the fact that for many years, non believers in the Bible have stated that Christians have twisted the Bible to make it's prophecies fit world conditions. Yet, here we have one of the greatest scientist who ever lived saying the very samething that we Christians have been saying in recent years. Only his report, comes to us from 300 years ago.
Sir Isaac Newton was correct, when he said the Jewish People would be returning to Israel near the time of the end. He was correct when he said the Jewish people would be in control of Jerusalem during the sametime. And time will show him to be correct again, when the Jewish people rebuild their third temple.
And the reason Sir Isaac Newton could make such accurate predictions 300 years ago, is because Sir Isaac Newton believed in the God of the Bible.
Indeed ... The greatest wisdom of all time was generated by the great minds of the past.
How pathetically sad that the arrogant "Pseudo Intellectuals" of today simply pale in comparison to these true "Giants" of knowledge from times past !
Sir Isacc Newton ..... Now there was a great genius if ever there was one.
It truly appears that most of the so called "Towering Intellectuals" of today have acheived the lofty title of "Legends In Their Own Minds" ...
and the most disturbing aspect of all is they actually believe it !!!
The really, really smart "Looney" PC crew will without doubt have to quickly return to the mother ship and escape to a galaxy far, far away ... before they dare question the sheer genius of Sir Issac ...
But that's just the point; they didn't "know." They were just repeating the old hope. When Israel was established (or re-established, depending who's holding forth) in 1948, it was the result of a chain of events over the previous century--it didn't have anything to do with NT prophecy.
Don't waste your time mate.
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I'm not sure how some can go so deep into their denial of the facts. Especially, when they have spent little time considering the facts.
Campo...stop it man. You're costing me a fortune in irony meters.
I'm not sure how some can go so deep into their denial of the facts. Especially, when they have spent little time considering the facts.
You mean people like you?
Your facts only stand because you're using a faulty text.
If you had to rely on Codex Lenningradis, your nonsense doesn't pass muster.
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So I will ask the question again. If they did not know. How were they able to accurately predict that the Jewish people would first take south Israel first which they did in 1948, and then accurately predict that Jerusalem would be taken second which happened in 1967? If they did not know.
Because those prophecies have nothing to do with modern Israel.
You are unable to make the distinction between the "end of times" and the "end times." Those are two very distinct periods, but you can't understand that because you insist on using the Kinky Jimi Hallucination.
The "latter days" is a reference to the "end of times," but not to the "end times."
The return was accomplished when they went back to build the Temple, which was ultimately destroyed in the "end of times" but not the "end time."
You cannot produce any evidence to the contrary.
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How were they able to predict that when this event would occur that the nations to the East of Israel would be able to produce an army of 200 million men? China alone said they could do this if the need presented itself back in 1960. And strangely the number given, matched the Biblical number.
Your lack of military knowledge is not really appalling, since we expect that, but your god's lack of military knowledge is grotesque.
No one in the right mind would fight a battle at Megido, and you couldn't possibly get a 200 Million man army anywhere near there.
Show us the math.
What are you using for a, c, p and beta?
You don't have a clue what I'm talking about. Why don't you pray to your god and maybe he'll tell you, except your god is too stupid to figure it out.
I'll give your god a hint so he won't be too embarrASSed, 'a' is Average Transport Availability.
Your facts only stand because you're using a faulty text.
If you had to rely on Codex Lenningradis, your nonsense doesn't pass muster.
Because those prophecies have nothing to do with modern Israel.
You are unable to make the distinction between the "end of times" and the "end times." Those are two very distinct periods, but you can't understand that because you insist on using the Kinky Jimi Hallucination.
The "latter days" is a reference to the "end of times," but not to the "end times."
The return was accomplished when they went back to build the Temple, which was ultimately destroyed in the "end of times" but not the "end time."
You cannot produce any evidence to the contrary.
Your lack of military knowledge is not really appalling, since we expect that, but your god's lack of military knowledge is grotesque.
No one in the right mind would fight a battle at Megido, and you couldn't possibly get a 200 Million man army anywhere near there.
Show us the math.
What are you using for a, c, p and beta?
You don't have a clue what I'm talking about. Why don't you pray to your god and maybe he'll tell you, except your god is too stupid to figure it out.
I'll give your god a hint so he won't be too embarrASSed, 'a' is Average Transport Availability.
I'm using a faulty text? Well then, why don't you show us how Ezekiel chapters 36,37,38,and 39 read in the text your reading. And then come back and talk about faulty texts. I have yet to read any text that would suggest my arguement would fall apart. I see people here shooting their mouths off all the time. Yet when you ask them to produce proof. Guess what? They dissappear. And if I am following a faulty text, then so must the Christians from the past. Yet their statement of the return of the Jewish people to Israel and Jerusalem. And the anger that would occur around the world because of their return was accurate. So it appears their faulty texts were right on. And such books were written confirming these prophecies as far back as the 1600s.
Because those prophecies have nothing to do with modern Israel?
So in Ezekiel 38 when God tells us when he will defend Israel. The ground (AND ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH) will quake in terror at His presence. Mountains will be thrown down cliffs will crumble; walls will fall to the earth. And God tells us that after this, He will be known to all the nations of the world.
So, when did this happen? 1840, how about 1372. Please, don't come here embarrassing yourself. I would suggest you actually take the time to read the Bible before you make such broad statements. This prophecy is telling you what will happen at the end of time. How can you miss that? Oh that's right, maybe you were reading your Codex Lenningradis. LOL
And the return was not accomplished when the second temple was built. And that is because they did not return in the way the prophecy said they would. Most Jews stayed in Babylon and did not return to south Israel. And the few Jews that did return, went back to Jerusalem first.
The prophecy in Zec. 12 tells us the Jewish people would secure south Israel first, and then Jerusalem. And the prophecy in Ezekiel also tells us, that once the Jews returned, they will never be driven from their land again. The second temple had nothing to do with the prophecies spoken of in Ezekiel. That fact that the Jewish people were driven out of their land by the Romans should of told you that much.
You see, you can only believe what you do if you are willing enought to ignore all the details of the prophecies.
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And he also believed in alchemi, or turning of lead into gold. He tried many experiments of turning various elements into gold but was never able to do this, and would never be able to as we know today that the heavy elements are forged in the bellies of giant stars. Newton could never have known this, in fact when Newton was alive there were people that still believed the earth was the center of everything. Today we know different, the earth is not the center of anything. And in fact, today we know the earth location is not special at all. Our solar system is located in an outer arm of a typical spiral galaxy, one of countless hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe. Who knows how many planets there are in all those galaxies, but that number may be 10 to the 50 or higher, more than can be counted. And now that scientist have discovered evidence for cosmic inflation (e.g. gravity waves predicted by inflation) this supports the possibility that our universe is not the only one. And in fact, our universe may simply be one in a countless sea of universes, more universes than planets in all the galaxies in our universe. And it could be that universes have been popping in and out of existence forever, with no cause, suggested through something called eternal inflation. Its really interesting. It could be that anything we can think of or imagine does and must exist in some universe somewhere. So, maybe there is an after life. Maybe if you believe enough you will get the after life of your choice (of your belief). That might be the way it works.
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Sir Issac ... A True Intellectual Indeed !
