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Old 12-08-2010, 01:04 AM
 
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Sir Isaac Newton, who is considered by many to be one of the worlds greatest scientist, also had a great intrest in Bible prophecy. This may come as a shock to some. Yet recent 300 year old manuscripts that were written by Newton, have been revealed to the public.

Based on the prophecies found in the Books of Daniel, and Revelation. Newton came to the conclusion that the second Coming of Jesus Christ could occur around the year 2060 A.D.. It was also his belief, that around this time, we would see the return of the Jewish people to land of Israel, and their return to the city of Jerusalem. Newton also believed, that the Jewish people would rebuild their third Temple on Mt. Moriah, and all of these events would lead us to the final battle of Armageddon.

Isaac Newton Predicts Apocalypse

Isaac Newton and Apocalypse Now


What I find most interesting here. Is the fact that for many years, non believers in the Bible have stated that Christians have twisted the Bible to make it's prophecies fit world conditions. Yet, here we have one of the greatest scientist who ever lived saying the very samething that we Christians have been saying in recent years. Only his report, comes to us from 300 years ago.

Sir Isaac Newton was correct, when he said the Jewish People would be returning to Israel near the time of the end. He was correct when he said the Jewish people would be in control of Jerusalem during the sametime. And time will show him to be correct again, when the Jewish people rebuild their third temple.

And the reason Sir Isaac Newton could make such accurate predictions 300 years ago, is because Sir Isaac Newton believed in the God of the Bible.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9UmYO0EtfU
The book of revelation has a key note in it about when and how this takes place, and the precursers to it..."REV 17:17"...is done by those who believe in the word of God and Christ...and when it is done sinlessly (that which God has commanded and asked we do)(see Genesis 2:15) utilizing the givens in (Genesis 9:3) = SINLESSLY restore (acts 3:21, 10:15) = which reverses the curse of death...under the commandments, precepts, and laws of the lands God has given us to uphold and follow....then and only then will the Christ and God come.

Cause we all know what happened the last time the Son of God came down here....eh?

So...let em sollow the racind and tainted waters they make and are making...and let their flesh deform and mutate for a while..and even fall off... let the plagues and pestilences come more into view to torment them, and the weather become violant and destructive onto what they make that destroys and defiles the elementals of Life!..and the lands move out of their places, and the whole world shake with the heavens.......while we draw lines as to why these things are taking place... out of reality of this day and age... to the bible books warnings and hedences to obey certain commandments, precepts, and covenants completely!!!!!...and see why God said do not do this, and do that...and keep this, and do not have that or make this...IDOL... of ingraven images... and delusions of grandure... and lies to sin continually with it,,,... (for its face value is not its true value) and (life is priceless to God)... do not make that more important than he....for LIFE!...and look they do Just that!...and do not share like God shares......nor is there peace or good health with them who have stollen away the giivens.....and they want sacrifices/murders in wars and their ways... with no merits or truths...and false promises... to continue to control those givens......to continue tying all hands that support it and use it...to SIN and EVIL that they do, and make, and bring forth.....so they all die who sin, or support, or breed it, with that taxed hand.

Now look at what they made..THE BEAST... sipping the dead blood (fossil fuels) of the life taken to pollute and destroy the Earths natural habitat for false profits and gains.... in the long run turn to...a dead world!!!....the complete opposite to that ideal God asked we do, and keep and multiply...EDENS.....and not do = SIN.

So is God gona come into a flawk of wolves waiting to defile or destroy him and his Son, at his coming?
Or will he wait till Evil starts consuming its own tale, and starts slaughtering itself, and infecting itself,...because of the lack of truth in them, and their disobediance has brought forth onto them, who support the evil things God said not to make or have before him......which brings about CHAOS in the end when all is revealed onto them...and they still denie the truth to make the lies more important..and the warfare and slughtering continue onward.

So...when we do what God asked...way back then out of Genesis...that is when we conquer the first sin...and put back what was taken in disobediance, sinlessly....
And it could have taken a few seconds to do....and so simple a child could do it....but look at the evil one trying to defile the children before they come to know about money or God's word and will...and or the system they are being born into......the pedophile sitting in the house of God?...cursing the wedlock, and the taking of communion...and the house itself....so more evil is brought into existance...

My what a backwards world it is....and it has all been fortold it would be this way before the end....and still their coming is not yet, because it still has not been done according To God!.....right?

And we all know you cannot control that with a whip, or a gun, or a bomb, if they all have em.....right?....especially when they push that red button, and turn the keys to ignite the doom gloom they have been planning for a long time to do....instead of listening to God...they would rather end it all, and take as many as they can with em...than submit to the truth of God.

Sharing is a better way to live...and let live freely...and if we all have and share and take on some of the burndens of sowing all seeds or some seeds sinlessly, no one or any living thing goes unfed...and if we all help eachother...no one lives in the cold...if we build houses and tend to the system God made Good,...it climatizes itself...when all seed or certain seeds are sown in a certain way (Intent and respect).
But we have to put all the plants where they belong in respect of them..and others.......and leave them do what God designed them for!

Thus let us not profane that which God has made Good, or made clean....cause it causes problems in the eco systems..and in humankinds evolution to that great day of his coming!

How long it takes to correct an error, and make amends, and be forgiven...is up to us!...when we had enough of sin and evil and wars, and taxes, and too high a price to live in it and under its control (IDOL)... and unhealthy enviroments and sickness, due to the industrial madness, and the woes and wrath that come onto the evil and sinners who continually sin the same sins, or cover them up or change them to look different but are symbolically the same..........and the garbage piles bring forth more plagues for the crime onto nature and the other living things God loves.....
Then we might submit when we see what it is all causing..?...and remember the first instruction or prime directive of that Bible...God made us for first and formost!
Atleast that...done in a certain way...shows we are ready to be trusted to go into the new!...or make the new to Go into....depending on how you decode "those who do the will of the father, shall enter paradise"
it is a self fullfilling paradox!...cause if we do not make it or restore it...how can one enter what has not been made, or restored to its formal self...

And we will be tested again...in that thousand years with Christ when he does come....to see if we learnt our lessons here of God's truth, and the reasons why he made us, and the fall from grace...and the restoration we all have to come to agree with to be humankind!....Then and only then....will we be with God and Christ in union or unicine with what was created for us to tend and keep and multiply into the heavens.....

But look...they are ready to destroy this world......by pushing a button...is it so easy for $atan to do?

Is that what God ask we do?, if we turn to the first Bible pages "Alpha" or the Last pages "Omega" to find reference to plowsheers, and pruning hooks,,,or tilling and sowing or tending and Keeping the givens.......they are all part of tending and keeping something God asked we keep.....In the begining, the middle speaks about the word in the flesh coming, and people trying...but not truly sucessful....because they did not follow the word nor the will to the letter of the law....right?

Amen, who is restoring all seeds? and not profaning anything God made Good?

So when we start doing that which God asked we do..and we do it sinlessly....and we understand why we should do it that way.....because we went down those roads to find out first hand...and turned back when we heard the voice of Jesus and God speaking to our spirit mind, and knowing in our mind that the system we are in is in error of God's will and word........and take a different stand on things..making Righteousness out of God's truth...(stand out of her sins my people, so you do not take part in her sins)....we have to ask what or who is she?...CIVILIZATION!...it's getting a bit too bent out of my comfort zone, and bloody, to want to participate in slaughtering and imprisoning people for Growing plants so they can exist in peace and harmony with God and the eco systems these plants belong to, which God said we are to tend and keep in good order sinlessly....and that is not happening with this so called civilization and Romanesque and Greek IDEAL of democracy...or should I say Hypocrisy?....if we cannot share freely with our brothers and sisters...and give freely to our brothers and sisters...Like God Gives us all!.....who has stollen it?...$atan!...who supports it?


Free trade?
In God we Trust?
Liberty and freedom for all?
Money and its face engraven value not being the true value....?

So what is a lie, and where do all lies come from?

The answer is in the Bible, and now in your reality!...should it be?...not if we follow God's instructions to the letter of the laws, precepts and covenants...and the laws of the lands...and the way to tend and keep them presteen and continually and abundantly Giving!

The Key word...GIVING!!!
And if we do not make hast in that ideal and bring it to the forefront of our demeaner as a race of well to do creations of God....then why should God save us from our own stupidity in our denial of that truth God spoke, and gave reason for our making?...if we do not listen to what God will no doubt say when he returns...as he has already said it before hand in the beginning of the book which supposedly contains his word...

it will be the same message...it will be the same God...the same Son...who proclaimed it is "all Good when taken with thanksgiving!"
And it is to be shared in that light and that truth...for those reasons....so peace and truth, and justice prevail over us all...and holy children are born clean, and undefiled...and they have the givens bestowed onto them...until no sin remains..so they can restore it and keep it and tend to it till it is time to return to where God wanted us in the first place!
EDENS...
Hopefully the people take back the house of the lord from the evil ones who now sit in it...and change cause we are near that end...and things do not look like they are in our favour.........as I read it again...and see it all wrong for the first time? or was the imagery of revelation enough to paint the picture in my mind to know when and where and how...is up to those who not only say, but do!...to bring about the coming!

it is not by faith alone
It is not by works alone

It is by both!

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Old 12-08-2010, 02:01 AM
 
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Newton used apocalyptic literature--none of which was ever meant to be taken literally--as a reference point for predicting an alleged historical event? The comment at the end of the article, that he didn't intend his musings to become public knowledge, was dead on the mark. Newtown had more common sense than that!


Of course non believers always say there is nothing in the Bible that was ever meant to be taken literally. Is that why Jesus Christ fulfilled all the Old Testament prophecies literally? The fact is when evidence shows us the Bible is being fulfilled literally. There will always be great numbers of non believers who will cover their eyes and ears, and continue to say it is all untrue. And they do this, even when the prophecies are happening right in front of their faces. Newton was not the only one who hundreds of years ago said the Jewish people would return from a worldwide exile, return to the land of Israel, and retake Jerusalem. Numerous other Christians were saying the samething based on the prophecies of the Bible. And they said this return would anger many nations around the world. And it appers those prophecies and the people who believed them were correct. And soon, we are going to see the other Biblical prophecies coming to pass. And that is why the Bible tells us in II Tim. 3:1 that in the last days, perilous times will come.

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Old 12-08-2010, 03:25 AM
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Did you read the link you provided? It does a great job of proving the Textus Receptus (on which the KJV is based) is full of errors.

In any event, Newton's use of the New Testament for prophecy was mostly confined to Revelation.

The real issue is the K-weer Jimi Vision's faulty rendering of Daniel, especially Daniel 9 which led him to erroneous conclusions.
No, I haven't read all from the link I provided you, just enough to understand why people believe there to be errors in the Biblical texts. There are repetitious recounts of the same events within several books of the Bible. Each one unique in the wording.

With your usage of the Textus Receptus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia you believe Tyndale's translations to be full of errors I take it. I find it curious that The Bishop of London, Tunstall was set on burning all of the English translations we now know as the King James Bible. He was almost successful, as all, but one copy that was hidden in a vault, was burned.

I've been told there is something in the Bible for every one. There are stories of romance, love (the book of Ruth) and math. I figure Newton made good on the math.

PS: Tyndale was fluent in five languages. Just thought that would be a, good to know point.
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Old 12-08-2010, 06:22 AM
 
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Of course non believers always say there is nothing in the Bible that was ever meant to be taken literally. Is that why Jesus Christ fulfilled all the Old Testament prophecies literally?
...only if you believe the Bible when it tells you that he did. Talk about circular reasoning!!
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:02 AM
 
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Default Sir Isaac Newton Predicts the general time of the second coming of Jesus Christ

Newton was a genius in the fields of physics and mathematics.

Biblical prophecy? Not so much.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:29 AM
 
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The problem with saying that Jesus filled the OT prophecies is that there is no contemporary evidence that he did. The writers of the gospels also knew what the prophecies of the OT were. They could have just written in the gospels that he fulfilled them.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:32 AM
 
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Overseers have been predicting the end of the world for millenia. That doesn't make any of them correct. The fact that Newton says it will doesn't make it so.
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Old 12-08-2010, 07:50 AM
 
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[...]And that is why the Bible tells us in II Tim. 3:1 that in the last days, perilous times will come.
And when did mankind not live in perilous times?
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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They could have just written in the gospels that he fulfilled them.
That's exactly what they did do.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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...only if you believe the Bible when it tells you that he did. Talk about circular reasoning!!


Well if your going to say nothing in the Bible was ever ment to be taken literally. Then the arguement has nothing to do with circular reasoning. It is about what the Bible itself actually states. It is a fact that the Old Testament gives hundreds of prophecies that speaks of Gods man to come. It is also a fact that the person of Jesus Christ was stated to of fulfilled those prophecies in the New Testament. This has nothing to do with the Bible being true or not. It has everything to do with what the Bible actually states. And non believers have a rich history of ignoring what the Bible actually states. And when people from hundreds of years before confirm the prophecies of the Bible. Non believers also ignore that reality as well. And you really have to dumb down, to do that.
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