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Old Today, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TuborgP View Post
On a broad general basis I fully agree. This thread started out about Bethesda v Roanoke and the specifics differences in those places. When the topic widened it became .......
True, and full disclosure: I know nothing about Roanoke or Bethesda.
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Old Today, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikala43 View Post
True, and full disclosure: I know nothing about Roanoke or Bethesda.
And I did so I was involved earlier on and retreated as it became broader. They are both now part of the greater DC cultural region. So even Roanoke is now more of a DC metro influenced small town. As the DC/NOVA/Richmond area spreads so does the cultural influence.
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Old Today, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jean_ji View Post
Which one would you want as a neighbor though?
Having given this some thought, I'd choose the chess-hustler. Why? I am not raising children, so the presence of unsavory or disreputable characters doesn't faze me. I've long-ago given up on appreciation of local residential real-estate, so a flunky neighbor with broken refrigerators on his front-porch doesn't compound the already parlous difficulties of my home-equity prospects. Being in a phase of life where one finds oneself slowing-down and reevaluating the big-picture philosophical questions, I'm attracted to a recap of a frat-boy life (not that I ever had one)... but not a "working class" frat boy life... more like Oxford/Cambridge (or what passes for such, in the imagination).

Originally Posted by Mikala43 View Post
True, and full disclosure: I know nothing about Roanoke or Bethesda.
Having some familiarity with both, a summary. Roanoke is a storied town of above-average affluence, given its general locale. It is regarded in Appalachian Virginia as being snooty and pretentious... the sort of place where regional notables send their pampered daughters to private boarding-school. Compared to towns along the I-81 corridor, it is indeed larger and more prosperous. It is however still an Appalachian town.

Bethesda meanwhile is the quintessential inner-suburb of condo high-rises and costly older houses on small lots. Its enjoys (if that's the proper term) reputation as a bedroom community for GS-15 and SES government employees. It's also the HQ for Lockheed-Martin, and a slew of "beltway bandit" consultancies. It's exactly the sort of place that's excoriated in the public imagination, when talk turns to "those tone-deaf people in Washington". But Washington DC, for all of its gentrification, still has considerable poverty and gaps in infrastructure. Bethesda meanwhile was upper-middle-class since before the term existed.

Originally Posted by TuborgP View Post
...The plumber who owns his business in Roanoke can be very different than the one who owns and lives in Reston Virginia or in the case of the OP Bethesda.
Yes, but I'd advance another kind of difference. One kind of plumber comes from a family of tradesmen. Nobody in that family much prized academic education, instead emphasizing "common sense" and "street smarts". The second kind of plumber is a former attorney from Eastern Europe. A political refugee back in the 1980s, he found it to be impossible to practice law in the US. Needing money, he reinvented himself as a tradesman, and now makes a fine living running his own plumbing-business.

The latter kind of plumber might be found in the environs of DC, NYC and so forth... but probably not in Roanoke.
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Old Today, 01:31 PM
Location: Eastern Washington
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Originally Posted by ABQ2015 View Post
I would also be concerned about local land use and other ordinances when moving into a "working class town." Are there strict ordinances for animal control, humane and ethical treatment of animals or ordinances restricting running a business, parking, frequent yard sales, VRBOs, farm animals, etc. in residential areas? And are these ordinances enforced? And there may be local customs such as having that big weekly barbecue for the extended family or to celebrate every holiday and extended family birthday with a big bash at the grandparent's house. It might be wiser to move into a newer neighborhood with an HOA and to rent first. In my area, once you move from the big city to the unincorporated county area or outlying smaller towns there are few restrictions.

You say that like it's a bad thing. I sometimes have cows in my yard, but only if they get out of the pasture fence. My neighbor's cat wanders over and eats with my cats in the yard.

HOA is the first step towards communism.
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Old Today, 02:06 PM
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Interesting question, OP. I live somewhat near you but have lived in lower COL cities in other parts of the country. I would urge you not to ignore crime rates. Our house in s “nice” downtown neighborhood in one of the prior locations was broken into 3 times in 4 years DESPITE our having a security system. Knock on wood, in our current “nice” neighborhood, with no system, we’ve had NO problems other than occasional spurts of car break ins where people left cars unlocked overnight. The sense of security is important, especially as we age, and/or if we are alone a lot.
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Old Today, 03:00 PM
Location: Australia
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Originally Posted by TuborgP View Post
Plumbers who own their business are small business men.
I live in a middle class area of Sydney. We are retired professionals and have a nice house with water views. We used to have a doctor next door, replaced by a truckie and real estate agent. Down the road, where there are the deep water fronts, live the rich people. People who are plumbers, electricians, other tradies with successful businesses. It is good to know that it is just not here that you pay your tradies a fortune.

But, as someone noted about their area, we say hello to neighbours and that is it. Our social group is scattered about the city and nearby. Apparently it can be quite different in country towns.
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Old Today, 06:23 PM
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A lot of the disadvantages of these places (few living-wage jobs, poor schools, inadequate transportation, minimal nightlife) are those retirees can tolerate. Crime and lack of hospitals are a concern, though. And a few annoyances, such as truck drivers who park their tractors in the backyard. Some, such as no good airport nearby, really aren't that critical. You can travel there when you need it. Remember, you're not a frequent flyer salesman anymore!
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