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Old 10-21-2008, 01:13 AM
 
Location: South Central Texas
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We don't need a NFL team here. For what, to bleed the town dry??? Get Jerry Jones out of Dallas and we can root for the Cowboys again!! We don't need a team here and if people think, they'll probably agree!! We've already footed the bill for jillion dollar facilities here, there and everywhere. I love the Spurs but don't you think the city got screwed. The Freeman Colliseum deal was a nightmare!! I'm sure Mr Holt is happy! Professional franchises suck and we are better off without them!! Think about it!!! Just my opinion of course! If you disagree that's fine. But , nobody's changing my mind!!
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:55 AM
 
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As long as the other NFL owners have a say so in the selection process, we will never have a team here. Who thinks that Jerry Jones would vote "yes" to having any of his dollar base be eroded away by putting another team in Texas? Plus, SA doesn't have the money base to support it. I love football, but I don't ever see SA having a team. Period.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:04 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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As long as the other NFL owners have a say so in the selection process, we will never have a team here. Who thinks that Jerry Jones would vote "yes" to having any of his dollar base be eroded away by putting another team in Texas? Plus, SA doesn't have the money base to support it. I love football, but I don't ever see SA having a team. Period.
Never say never (as they say). Both St. Louis & Jacksonville have a considerably smaller market that SA (even put together), but I agree with your assessment about Jerry Jones - he has only one vote - but he has alot of influence.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:26 AM
 
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Both St. Louis & Jacksonville have a considerably smaller market that SA (even put together)
St. Louis: 2.8 million
San Antonio: 2.0 million
Jax: 1.3 million and too small to support the team they already have.

L.A. is about 13 million and definitely deserving of a team. I'd only support a team in San Antonio if it didn't cost a penny of taxpayers' money. I'd rather improve the schools, transportation infrastructure and quality of life first.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:37 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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St. Louis: 2.8 million
San Antonio: 2.0 million
Jax: 1.3 million and too small to support the team they already have.

L.A. is about 13 million and definitely deserving of a team. I'd only support a team in San Antonio if it didn't cost a penny of taxpayers' money. I'd rather improve the schools, transportation infrastructure and quality of life first.
2.8 million is for St. Louis County. St. Louis itself doesn't even have 400,000. I lived there (just to the east of it actually - in Belleville) for 14 years until I came here (Baghdad) for a year. STL is a very small city with only the arch being remotely close to a high rise. Havin been in SA (and finally getting to move back for good in Feb), & having lived just outside STL, it is very easy to see how much bigger SA is. STL is more of a metro-area thing than a good-sized city.
I wish LA would have a team as well, but they seem so dead set against it.
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:28 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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STL is more of a metro-area thing than a good-sized city.
This is Mister's point. A professional team draws from the metro's population, not the city limits. The city limits of a city rarely depicts the full metro population. SA is probably one of the closest out there. For example, Houston has 2.5 mil or so in the city but close to 6 mil in the metro, big difference.

I agree that SA deserves a team more than Jacksonville, but hey, they went out and tried to take one from another city on more than one occasion. I haven't seen SA do that yet. Sure, SA would take one if a team wanted to move, but SA needs to steal one like Nashville, Baltimore, Phoenix, etc.
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Universal City, Texas
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2.8 million is for St. Louis County. St. Louis itself doesn't even have 400,000. I lived there (just to the east of it actually - in Belleville) for 14 years until I came here (Baghdad) for a year. STL is a very small city with only the arch being remotely close to a high rise. Havin been in SA (and finally getting to move back for good in Feb), & having lived just outside STL, it is very easy to see how much bigger SA is. STL is more of a metro-area thing than a good-sized city.
I wish LA would have a team as well, but they seem so dead set against it.
Bulldawg, I lived in Belleville for 7 years. When talking about a football market, you are talking about metro, including Belleville. I left in 2006 and I was under the impression that the metro was 3.2 million. Did 400,000 leave in two years?

I guess I didn't read your reply closely. You said the 2.8 was for St. Louis County, but when you include the east side of the river and parts of adjoining counties, it does reach 3.2 million metro. So I guess I answered my own question. Welcome fellow Belleville resident. I lived on the east side of Belleville, worked in St. Louis, Fairview Heights, and also at the auto racetrack.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:12 AM
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Location: Ohio
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I'd only support a team in San Antonio if it didn't cost a penny of taxpayers' money. I'd rather improve the schools, transportation infrastructure and quality of life first.
I agree. These days, the only way to reel in a major league sports franchise is to sweeten the pot with capital expenditures and tax breaks. The Alamodome is not up to NFL standards anymore and it will require millions and millions of dollars worth of improvements to make it suitable for an NFL team. I'd rather see those millions be plowed into the city than into the Alamodome.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:42 AM
 
Location: I-35
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Negative SA deserves the Cowboys to win the SB.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:55 AM
 
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These days, the only way to reel in a major league sports franchise is to sweeten the pot with capital expenditures and tax breaks.
We've seen it time and time again across the country: a team promises to come to a new city (or threatens to leave an existing city) if/unless a new stadium is built. Taxes are raised, the city has the team for about 10 years and as soon as the contract expires the team starts talking about moving to greener pastures unless a new stadium is built.

I think every NFL city and every wannabe NFL city should follow Green Bay's example and have a city-owned team if tax money is spent on the stadium. The city could own the name in perpetuity and the team could play in the same stadium until it falls down or needs to be enlarged.
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