Job offer in SF....yes? no? hell no? (Berkeley, Stanford: schools, university)

[04kL4nD]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

my opinion
you have multiple delusions that you use to convince yourself you don't have a craptastc lifestyle. $11.75 is extremely low/very low wages in santa clara county. living 3 adults in a 1 bedroom in your mid 30s not good. Living with your parent in your late 30s. Not good.
if you have to delude yourself that san jose is in the same league as paris ,new york ,sf or london more power to you.
Keep in mind some of the transplants here in highly compensated fields are buying single family homes and living well.

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[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by Perma Bear

Good luck paying rent when it continues to compound and your 11.75 an hour doesn't compound at the same rate.

I haven't had that problem, yet. Plus I don't plan on making $11.25/hr forever. It's not like this is my chosen profession, lol. It's just a steppingstone. I will only be here temporarily, then get something that pays better. I've only worked here for about a year. I'm always looking for something better. Maybe the Merchant Marine. We'll see.

But if you make $100k, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. You can live here a lot easier than I can. I guess you want to be able to own a SFH? You can do that here too if you make enough. Most of us who grew up here neither need nor want to purchase a SFH, though.

But if you want it, and don't make enough to do it here, then I agree that you need to move.

[04kL4nD]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

I haven't had that problem, yet. Plus I don't plan on making $11.25/hr forever. It's not like this is my chosen profession, lol. It's just a steppingstone. I will only be here temporarily, then get something that pays better. I've only worked here for about a year. I'm always looking for something better. Maybe the Merchant Marine. We'll see.

But if you make $100k, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. You can live here a lot easier than I can. I guess you want to be able to own a SFH? You can do that here too if you make enough. Most of us who grew up here neither need nor want to purchase a SFH, though.

But if you want it, and don't make enough to do it here, then I agree that you need to move.

Do you plan on living with roommates or at your parents after you're making more than $11.25/hr?

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

My opinion
you have multiple delusions that you use to convince yourself you don't have a craptastc lifestyle.

lol, nobody said that. My lifestyle is indeed craptastic. Particularly, my job is craptastic.

But that's not the point. The point is that I can live here and I can afford rent.

If made $100k, omg I would be living like A KING. Man, I would have an awesome apartment in downtown San Jose, I would be driving a Tesla and I would pay my dad's rent too (he can't afford it by himself).

If you're making $100k and somehow can't afford to live here, you are DEFINITELY doing something wrong.

$11.75 is extremely low/very low wages in Santa Clara county.

Thanks, Captain Obvious! Man, I would never have known that without you telling me! This blows my mind! This totally changes my world view!

The question is....HOW IS IT THAT YOU, SSMASTER, CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE HERE WHEN YOU MAKE LIKE 10 TIMES WHAT I MAKE?

If you have to delude yourself that San Jose is in the same league as Paris ,New York ,SF or London more power to you.

I grew up here, man. To me, it is in the same league. I'm sorry but you will never convince me otherwise. It is called having an emotional connection to the region.

And anybody who thinks Silicon Valley is not as iconic as SF is living in 1950. Perhaps such a person has never heard of Apple.

Keep in mind some of the transplants here in highly compensated fields are buying single family homes and living well.

Then I don't know what the point of your post is. The point of the post to which you were replying was not that neutrino78x has a great life, but rather that it possible to live in this area and survive on $11.25/hr, AND THEREFORE IF SOMEONE MAKES $100K OR MORE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

I am surprised that someone who works in "a highly compensated field" has such difficulty with reading comprehension. I got an A in English 1A, what did you get?

[ssmaster]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

Then I don't know what the point of your post is. The point of the post to which you were replying was not that neutrino78x has a great life, but rather that it possible to live in this area and survive on $11.25/hr, AND THEREFORE IF SOMEONE MAKES $100K OR MORE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.

I am surprised that someone who works in "a highly compensated field" has such difficulty with reading comprehension. I got an A in English 1A, what did you get?

You are not surviving you are struggling and you would not live like a king on $100,000.
You can't seem to accept the massive amount of wealth in the Bay Area

The top 5% in San Francisco make more than $420,000
In San Jose the top 5% make more than $370,000
In San Francisco almost 8% of millinial households (21-34 year olds)make more than $350,000.


You have a right to be very proud about receiving an A in English 1A. I myself have a terminal degree in a highly competitive STEM field from one of the most prestigious universities on the planet.( So I have that going for me. Which is nice)
But as the Bay Area is home to Stanford , UCBerkeley ,UCSF and is home to robust tech and finance industries which attract people from all over the world a lot of people around here can say the same

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

You are not surviving you are struggling and you would not live like a king on $100,000.

Nope, I can pay my rent just fine. Unlike some who make six figures and say they can't pay theirs.

You can't seem to accept the massive amount of wealth in the Bay Area

I grew up in a five bedroom house with a large pool, spa, and large front yard and backyard, with yardworkers. In Silicon Valley. We moved here in 1984. Consider inflation; my dad was very highly compensated back then. He had a BSEE and worked at various hard disk and tape drive companies. His name is in several different patents. I know that most can't afford the house we had, back then or now.

We can all live here, though. Your salary determines the size of the dwelling in which you live. But people live here who make 10.50 and people live here who make 400k.

You have a right to be very proud about receiving an A in English 1A. I myself have a terminal degree in a highly competitive STEM field from one of the most prestigious universities on the planet.( So I have that going for me. Which is nice)

And yet, you can't seem to figure out which side of the argument you want to be on, or which side I support.

Let me help you out. People are complaining about the cost of living here. Their main complaint seems to be that they personally can't afford to purchase (as opposed to rent) a single family home in an excellent school district.

I am one of those who IS NOT COMPLAINING and is against people complaining because I can pay my rent just fine. I would definitely prefer to make more, but I can afford to live in this region. I'm never moving away because I grew up here.

So you seem to have difficulty deciding if you support the complainers or if you support people like myself and bodyforlife99 who think people can afford to live here.

[mrsltd]

I grew up here, man. To me, it is in the same league. I'm sorry but you will never convince me otherwise. It is called having an emotional connection to the region.

And there it is. It is wonderful that you have an emotional connection to your home region but that is not the same as its being a "Great City" to people that define that sort of thing (such as people that make money or influence policy doing it).

I love my specific slice of the Greater Los Angeles Metro (including some of Orange County) and still live in the area but not sure I would call it a "Great City" for that reason.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by mrsltd

And there it is. It is wonderful that you have an emotional connection to your home region but that is not the same as its being a "Great City" to people that define that sort of thing (such as people that make money or influence policy doing it).

Well, i think leaders all around the world look to Silicon Valley for insight, so I would still disagree that Silicon Valley is not a world renowned region that has great influence.

People who won't admit that are stuck in 1950 when San Francisco was the largest city in a 300 mile radius, and the microprocessor, graphical user interface, mouse, hard drive, etc had not been invented yet; all those things were invented in Silicon Valley.

Don't get me wrong, the main reason I would never move out of the Bay Area is my emotional connection. But that is not the reason why I think Silicon Valley has established itself as a great city/region.

Apple, Intel, AMD, PARC, Stanford, Santa Clara University, SJSU, Facebook: all are either highly successful companies or extemely well regarded institutions, and all are here in Silicon Valley.

I love my specific slice of the Greater Los Angeles Metro (including some of Orange County) and still live in the area but not sure I would call it a "Great City" for that reason.

Los Angeles is definitely one of the world's great cities as well.

Scottsdale, AZ, not so much.

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

Well, i think leaders all around the world look to Silicon Valley for insight, so I would still disagree that Silicon Valley is not a world renowned region that has great influence.

People who won't admit that are stuck in 1950 when San Francisco was the largest city in a 300 mile radius, and the microprocessor, graphical user interface, mouse, hard drive, etc had not been invented yet; all those things were invented in Silicon Valley.

Don't get me wrong, the main reason I would never move out of the Bay Area is my emotional connection. But that is not the reason why I think Silicon Valley has established itself as a great city/region.

Apple, Intel, AMD, PARC, Stanford, Santa Clara University, SJSU, Facebook: all are either highly successful companies or extemely well regarded institutions, and all are here in Silicon Valley.



Los Angeles is definitely one of the world's great cities as well.

Scottsdale, AZ, not so much.

Believe me SJSU and Facebook does NOT belong with the rest of those.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by Perma Bear

Believe me SJSU and Facebook does NOT belong with the rest of those.

How so? Their current stock price is $113. Their market capitialization is 321 billion dollars.

Their profit in 2015 was over three billion dollars.

Cash on hand 11 billion dollars.


Sounds successful to me.