08-11-2008, 09:06 AM
Location: San Diego, California
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Call it bs if you wish or a big assumption. I could care less. But the FACTS are that after 20 years I met SO MANY people that told me that TX was the most beautiful place in the US and the best place to live in the US. I then asked them if they had been out of TX and EVERY SINGLE ONE told me "no".
Now keep in mind I am not talking about TX as a whole. I am talking about South Texas . I have found the people in the Hill Country to be not like that.
Here is another thing that I am talking about. You are attacking the poster. Why not post your dislikes so people can see both sides as bella stated. Here. I will start by posting thing I don't like about places I love.
WV: Don't like the winters. Bad Economy.
TN: Western area of the state sucks.
08-11-2008, 09:08 AM
Location: Texas
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Right...I've been around the world numerous times, I have lived overseas, I've lived in California, I've been all over the U.S....and I chose to live in Texas. There's just something special about it that either speaks to you or doesn't.
To be fair to the thread, I will post things I don't like about Texas (though since there is varying culture/landscape/economies, mine is really more about North Texas). Some of these things can be said about other states...
1. Hot, muggy summers with mosquito swarms
2. Being a big border infiltration site
3. Lack of easy access to quality beaches/ski sites (without flying or driving a dozen hours).
4. Having to defend myself, my choices, and my state every time I encounter someone from up north. No, really...what is that? I don't meet people from Connecticut and say, "Oh, god! How awful!"
08-11-2008, 09:16 AM
Location: Central Texas
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4. Having to defend myself, my choices, and my state every time I encounter someone from up north. No, really...what is that? I don't meet people from Connecticut and say, "Oh, god! How awful!"
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
That's probably the worst thing about Texas, that so many people, in complete ignorance (many, though not all, of them never having been here), have so many assumptions that aren't true about Texas, and feel perfectly free to spout them at any opportunity.
08-11-2008, 09:17 AM
Location: WESTIEST Plano, East Texas, Upstate NY
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lutarian
Call it bs if you wish or a big assumption. I could care less. But the FACTS are that after 20 years I met SO MANY people that told me that TX was the most beautiful place in the US and the best place to live in the US. I then asked them if they had been out of TX and EVERY SINGLE ONE told me "no".
Ok. I call it bs.
08-11-2008, 09:23 AM
Location: West Texas
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That's probably the worst thing about Texas, that so many people, in complete ignorance (many, though not all, of them never having been here), have so many assumptions that aren't true about Texas, and feel perfectly free to spout them at any opportunity.
You don't know how true this is. This is all off-topic, of course, but my wife is from Pittsburgh, PA. When she was moving down here when we were first dating, she had a HUGE pre-conceived notion of what Texas would be like, especially my small town in west Texas deserts! But all I remember her saying when she was driving in was "wow... it's so much greener than I thought it would be!" Which was funny, because it's not... compared to west Texas.
When she got here... her first summer she was basically counting days until we would move... 10 years (when her daughter would be graduating high school). Then 9 years 11 months, 30 days... etc. etc. But she's slowly changing her mind. After the first couple years.. it became "well, let's wait to see where the kids live after college, then we'll decide." This has evolved into, "well... if we have to live here.. there's other worse places to be, it wouldn't be so bad..."
I guess the really funny thing is how Texas really does grow on you. When I was in the Bay Area in California, people that moved there I didn't hear mention how it was growing on them. They couldn't wait to move to another place. The same when I lived in Georgia, Colorado, and Virginia. Even when I lived in Hawaii for 6 years, after a time, they wanted a break. Most people I know, who have left my city, often return to either live or work again after they've left. Very few have choosen to leave for good, and they were younger because of a lack of clubs/bars/etc.
Just a little cold.. is that too much to ask? Some snow in the winter... some rain now and then!?? LOL
08-11-2008, 01:56 PM
Location: Live Oak Co. in the Great Republic of Texas!
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lutarian
Call it bs if you wish or a big assumption. I could care less. But the FACTS are that after 20 years I met SO MANY people that told me that TX was the most beautiful place in the US and the best place to live in the US. I then asked them if they had been out of TX and EVERY SINGLE ONE told me "no".
Now keep in mind I am not talking about TX as a whole. I am talking about South Texas ...
Okay, just for the record, retract your statements now. I am 100% native
South Texan , living in
South Texas once again. To me, Texas is the most beautiful place in the world. (And beauty can be found in aspects other than just the visual scenery.)
Have I been out of Texas? Yes! (Oh dear <insert your deity here>! He did NOT just break lutarian's long standing, 100% accurate survey of every single South Texan to live or die in the last 150 years!?!
)
In case you haven't figured it out, lutarian, I am with tycobb2522 on this one. I call BS.
By the way, this does not mean that I don't have issues with certain aspects of life in Texas. I agree with Reb on this, our illegal immigration problem needs to be handled.
Are they enough to make me even consider living anywhere else? No, because I have been there and done that, and was plain miserable the whole time.
This is the only place in the world that I have found myself being able to wake up in the morning, walk out on the front porch with my first cup of coffee and my first cigarette of the day, smile and feel at peace and happy to be living where I am.
08-11-2008, 02:23 PM
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Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
That's probably the worst thing about Texas, that so many people, in complete ignorance (many, though not all, of them never having been here), have so many assumptions that aren't true about Texas, and feel perfectly free to spout them at any opportunity.
YES!
My husband and I have a tour of places for out of state friends. We show them Western/cowboy places, like they expect. Then we take them to beautiful lakes and museums. We show them the variety. They always leave glad to have had the "Texas experience," which they understand to be more than cowboys and a certain state of mind. They realize that their time with us was just an introduction to the people and places of the state. It is amazing that people could actually think that a state as large as Texas could be all one way, could possibly be classified in any way other than -- varied.
08-11-2008, 02:33 PM
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Umm I thought this was the texas forum.
And I believe you came to the right place.
08-11-2008, 02:38 PM
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YES!
My husband and I have a tour of places for out of state friends. We show them Western/cowboy places, like they expect. Then we take them to beautiful lakes and museums. We show them the variety. They always leave glad to have had the "Texas experience," which they understand to be more than cowboys and a certain state of mind. They realize that their time with us was just an introduction to the people and places of the state. It is amazing that people could actually think that a state as large as Texas could be all one way, could possibly be classified in any way other than -- varied.
Yeah, there are a lot of misconceptions about Texas. Just look at the U.S. General forum pages, for example, and the things you read there. People don't really get an idea about our state until they come and see this place firsthand. I'll bet a lot of people end up leaving pleasantly surprised. Like I tell people, you never know how good something is until you try it.
08-11-2008, 02:58 PM
Location: San Diego, California
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You know how you say that Northern States talk bad about Texas? I have found many, many people that live in South Texas talk bad about Northerners. I heard people constantly talking trash about Northerners, winter texas, snowbirds for years. So it's a two way street. The North and South battle still continues.
I was actually raised in California for 12 year. Spent junior high in WV and high school in IN. Then joined the military and of course was sent everywhere. Then I spent my time travelling all over the United States and living in quite a few states.
I think Northern Cali is gorgeous BUT I would never live there.
As for friendliess. I have never had a problem with any state I have ever been to or lived in. Some were more friendlier then others. The most friendly state I have been to was TN.
The interesting thing with TX that I found was that the more friendly people in TX were NOT born and raised there. They were transplants. Interesting uh? I am not taking born and bread Texans are rude I am saying the transplants seem friendler.
As far as state pride. That is a big problem when people have TO MUCH pride in their state. What I have found from experience is that when you have TO MUCH pride you can't admit when you have a problem. It's like a parent that says "oh no, my son and/or daughter would never do that"...even though they are and the parent knows it...they just don't want to admit it. So instead of the problem being taken care of...it gets worse.
It's like that with South Texas which is filled with corruption to an extreme level and even when people see it on tv or in the papers they still deny it.
Here is some proof of to much pride. I start a simple thread and instead of staying on topic and telling the things you don't like...you attack. Interesting uh?
All this is making me want to take a trip to Fredericksburg, TX and go the brewery for some beer!
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Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)