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Old 07-08-2019, 10:11 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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"entitlement" (an Epidemic in USA)

Not sure why, except prosperity has made life a candy coating for many.

More of a 'parent' issue, (as it always has been), but it is really bad and getting worse fast. (You see it as soon as you hire a recent USA grad or student)... many of their parents lived this and modeled it for their kids.

Bernstein Bears get the Gimmee's
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Half of the tourists I encountered in Florence appeared to be American.

Interesting! Most Americans will visit Europe when traveling abroad and that's about as adventuresome as they get...
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Someone needs to come up with a word for the phenomenon of Americans who travel trying to pretend they are some special enlightened class of American and the rest do not.

Ah! But I think anybody that travels becomes enlightened That's part of the reason why I travel. I feel sorry for those that spend all of their lives who have never travelled 3 hours from their home town....and my guess is there are many of those.
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Old 07-09-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Interesting! Most Americans will visit Europe when traveling abroad and that's about as adventuresome as they get...
Adventuresome travelers are a minority in any culture. Most just want some relaxing beach time, and to visit a few sites their culture considers iconic, and that's it. And that's fine. I like travel, but not everyone does, and that's OK.
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Old 07-09-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Interesting! Most Americans will visit Europe when traveling abroad and that's about as adventuresome as they get...
I didn't enjoy my time in Florence, but I think it's a decent idea to visit Florence when people start traveling abroad. Tons of culture, museums, etc, if it's your thing! A lot of schools in the U.S seem to have organized tours in Florence, maybe under the name of study abroad program?

Most Americans don't have the time and money to travel abroad except for Mexico.

As much as I love to travel, I don't think it's a priority or necessity.
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Old 07-09-2019, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Adventuresome travelers are a minority in any culture. Most just want some relaxing beach time, and to visit a few sites their culture considers iconic, and that's it. And that's fine. I like travel, but not everyone does, and that's OK.
Americans are actually pretty adventurous. For example, China isn't the most accessible country in terms of the language barrier, paperwork(visa) and distance. But there are a ton of Americans in Shanghai.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:13 AM
 
Location: On the road
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Tons of Americans in SE Asia as well. It seems to me that the most over represented are the Dutch. We encounter so many Dutch people traveling in SE Asia, especially among the backpacker demographic, yet the population of Netherlands isn't very high. I'm not sure what they put in the water there that gives them the travel bug, but it works out great for getting to know folks since most travelers from Holland speak better English than some of my friends back home in USA.
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Old 07-10-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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it works out great for getting to know folks since most travelers from Holland speak better English than some of my friends back home in USA.
The Dutch government requires that foreign language tv shows be subtitled rather than dubbed so generations of schoolkids grew up watching US tv shows and developing an ear for understanding (and then speaking) US English outside of any formal classwork.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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The Dutch government requires that foreign language tv shows be subtitled rather than dubbed so generations of schoolkids grew up watching US tv shows and developing an ear for understanding (and then speaking) US English outside of any formal classwork.
I've been watching subbed Japanese drama and anime for over a decade and I still don't speak Japanese.
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Tons of Americans in SE Asia as well. It seems to me that the most over represented are the Dutch. We encounter so many Dutch people traveling in SE Asia, especially among the backpacker demographic, yet the population of Netherlands isn't very high. I'm not sure what they put in the water there that gives them the travel bug, but it works out great for getting to know folks since most travelers from Holland speak better English than some of my friends back home in USA.

Yes there are a lot of Dutch. I've had some pretty funny encounters with them in the past but they are good people. One day I was riding a very packed BTS train and being 6'4" I get a lot of looks in SE Asia. At one of the stops, on comes a young Dutch kid who was close to 6'8". I looked at him and said, "I'm just going to stand next to you my entire trip so people will stare at you and not me." We both got a good laugh.


Second time, my wife and I were walking around Chiang Mai. These two Dutch backpackers walked up to me and asked "hey were do you go to get laid around here?" Comically I pointed to my wife and he said, "let me rephrase that, do you know any places where we can get laid around here?"


Guess I get along with them because I'm also Scandinavian....
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