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As I've said before, it isn't only about kids. Adults who find some of this stuff funny themselves have a depraved and hyper sexed mindset.
hahahahahaha oh my hahahahahahaha you should write for the show hahahahaha
Seriously tho. My hubby will be the FIRST to say that me watching this show does NOT put me into a hyper-sexed mindset. If it did he would have me watching it every night.
In this country, government censorship should be kept at a minimum. Now, I despise reality shows and think they're the nastiest, most depraved shows on the air. But I wouldn't try to sic the FCC on them...unless...well, possibly if they hire Miley Cyrus to work on them! Now, that one is depraved! But maybe so, maybe those who are most in favor of censorship of this show may actually be secretly sneaking around watching it late at night when noone can see them, then become mortified that they do that, and try to get the gov to save them from themselves! Also, I still wonder if it's all really about the new gay waiter!
Do you have actual proof of this psychological state
of mind of adults who watch these shows? Links maybe? Because in my opinion,
most adults who watch this kind of thing just get a momentary chuckle and move
on with their lives.
It seems to me that the only ones who have a problem with it and might be
"depraved" or of a "hyper sexed mind set" and dwell on it are the ones who are
the most disturbed and for some reason cannot get past it. Those are the ones
clamoring to have the shows removed because they are not mature enough to deal
with the subject matter so much so that even not watching the show, but just
knowing it exists, is too much for them.
LOL, you got it all wrong. I could care less if you or anyone else want to listen to a half hour long blow job joke, or have the next generation be raised in a world where sex is a punch line, no more serious than getting a cup of coffee. Be my guest. Enjoy your sex, drugs, abortion, and drinking. I have never once advocated for their removal. In fact, I said just the opposite. We have rights in this country, and if someone wants to indulge in lust and smut, that's their business and their Right, just like it's the networks right to produce it.
As far as evidence that it affects what we are willing to accept? Anyone with a brain could figure it out. Ask yourself, would a showlike 2BG have been permitted to air on national television in 1950? Of course not. But as time has gone by, and as more and more shows have pushed the envelope further and further, we have become more to used to this dirty entertainment and thus, more accepting of it. Just good old common sense and analysis, no fancy psych degree required.
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So that's my $.05 psychological analysis.
Highway robbery
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Seriously tho. My hubby will be the FIRST to say that me watching this show does NOT put me into a hyper-sexed mindset. If it did he would have me watching it every night.
I didn't say it'd make you horny, I said it promotes a warped mindset. Anyone who thinks a show that rotates between oral, anal, vaginal, and gay sex jokes, promotes drug use etc. is entertaining has a very warped head on their shoulders in my humble opinion.
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LOL, you got it all wrong. I could care less if you or anyone else want to listen to a half hour long blow job joke, or have the next generation be raised in a world where sex is a punch line, no more serious than getting a cup of coffee. Be my guest. Enjoy your sex, drugs, abortion, and drinking. I have never once advocated for their removal. In fact, I said just the opposite. We have rights in this country, and if someone wants to indulge in lust and smut, that's their business and their Right, just like it's the networks right to produce it.
As far as evidence that it affects what we are willing to accept? Anyone with a brain could figure it out. Ask yourself, would a showlike 2BG have been permitted to air on national television in 1950? Of course not. But as time has gone by, and as more and more shows have pushed the envelope further and further, we have become more to used to this dirty entertainment and thus, more accepting of it. Just good old common sense and analysis, no fancy psych degree required.
Highway robbery
But you do care enough to judge people and label them on the basis of a TV show they choose to watch. Just like you are judging me and I don't watch it. I think my question is perfectly valid. On what criteria do you base your personality assessment of those who watch a TV show just because you find that show objection able. You are assuming that everyone who watches the show is some kind of perv and that's just a silly assumption.
I will repeat what I said earlier, I don't watch it. I did for the first couple of seasons because I thought it would be interesting to see a show about two young women trying to create a successful business. Then it just turned into more of a raunchy type show which didn't interest me. And when they changed the time, it interfered with another show I enjoyed watching much better so the choice was a no-brainer for me.
So I haven't watched "Two Broke Girls" for a couple of seasons now. What I am wondering is, if you think it's so depraved, why are you still watching it? You seem to know an awful lot about it.
Regarding the shows allowed in the 50's, so what? This isn't the 50's. A lot of things were allowed in the 50's that aren't allowed today and some of that is a good thing. African Americans were rarely seen on TV. For that matter, neither were most ethnic groups of people. Women were portrayed as idiot housewives. Native American Indians were always the bad guys. Quiz shows were rigged. A lot of Rod Serling's brilliant was censored. Kid shows were just plain stupid. Yeah, the good old days of TV. Not all of it was so great.
People decried how horrible TV was back then just as they do today and what a bad influence it was on the morals of Society. Somehow, just like now, people survived the bad stuff just like they will today.
But you do care enough to judge people and label them
on the basis of a TV show they choose to watch. Just like you are judging me and
I don't watch it
I do not recall ever making any judgments against you personally other than to say paying .05 for your psychological assessment was highway robbery.
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. I think my question is perfectly valid. On what criteria do you base your
personality assessment of those who watch a TV show just because you find that
show objection able.
Maybe people who watch kiddy porn and find it entertaining aren't pervs or morally bankrupt. Maybe they just enjoy it and go on living a normal life after they're done. That's the argument you're making essentially.
What we watch and find entertaining and interesting is a direct reflection on ourselves.
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So I haven't watched "Two Broke Girls" for a couple of seasons now. What I am
wondering is, if you think it's so depraved, why are you still watching it? You
seem to know an awful lot about it.
I tend to like having happy, light hearted shows on as background noise and sitcoms normally fit that bill pretty well. But no, 2BG has become too dirty to have on my TV so I won't be giving them my ratings any longer.
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People decried how horrible TV was back then just as they do today and what a
bad influence it was on the morals of Society. Somehow, just like now, people
survived the bad stuff just like they will today.
Really? So it's your opinion that society is just as moral and upright today as it was in the 50's concerning matters of premarital sex, dressing conservatively, limiting the recreational use of drugs and alcohol, preserving the family unit, etc? Because I would say our society erodes further and further in to depravity with the passing of each generation, just like our entertainment.
It could be worse. We could have television shows on our networks like the Europeans do in which nudity, sex, and language are not regulated much at all. To most of Europe, Americans are considered prudes. So, we should be grateful we're not on a par with European TV, and can just change the channel when we're offended by insinuation rather than by seeing the real thing.
Nudity is perceived and looked at differently in different parts of the world. For instance, when a woman bares her breasts, it's not a sexual thing. It's looked at the same as a guy with his shirt off over here.
So, the question becomes, in what way is nudity presented in those countries? In a sexual kind of way, or just a normal everyday part of life.
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Really? So it's your opinion that society is just as moral and upright today as it was in the 50's concerning matters of premarital sex, dressing conservatively, limiting the recreational use of drugs and alcohol, preserving the family unit, etc? Because I would say our society erodes further and further in to depravity with the passing of each generation, just like our entertainment.
Actually, premarital sex was considered child's play (literally) back in those Puritanical Colonial days. It was not unusual for kids to play sex and have intercourse with each other. Women have been having premarital sex since the first prostitute was mentioned as it's the oldest profession on Earth. All the men throughout history who had mistresses...common. Husbands were frequently "cuckhold", and a mistress's child was often raised by the husband and wife.
Drugs at the turn of the 19th century were sold over the counter for children's ailments. Cocaine, marijuana, heroin and other opiates were common staples in every drug store. Alcohol has been around since before the Egyptians, and certainly in the Bible.
The problem is, all these "vices" used to be perfectly normal and accepted until the morality police made them tabu throughout the centuries. Yet, despite the police, they are still just as common today as they were hundreds or thousands of years ago. Society isn't any different than it was, it's just regulated, legislated and moralized differently than it was.
I do not recall ever making any judgments against you personally other than to say paying .05 for your psychological assessment was highway robbery.
Maybe people who watch kiddy porn and find it entertaining aren't pervs or morally bankrupt. Maybe they just enjoy it and go on living a normal life after they're done. That's the argument you're making essentially.
What we watch and find entertaining and interesting is a direct reflection on ourselves.
I tend to like having happy, light hearted shows on as background noise and sitcoms normally fit that bill pretty well. But no, 2BG has become too dirty to have on my TV so I won't be giving them my ratings any longer.
Really? So it's your opinion that society is just as moral and upright today as it was in the 50's concerning matters of premarital sex, dressing conservatively, limiting the recreational use of drugs and alcohol, preserving the family unit, etc? Because I would say our society erodes further and further in to depravity with the passing of each generation, just like our entertainment.
I didn't say you were judging me. I am saying you are judging those who choose to watch the TV shows you do not approve of. You are calling shows with silly sex and bathroom humor kiddy porn and worse which they are not. You are seeing much more in them than most people see. That is what is in your mind and so you are more offended than most.
And yes, you got the argument I am making perfectly. Good for you.
People haven't changed. I think there was just as much of whatever it is you don't approve of in the 50's as there is today. It's more overt thanks to the wonders of modern electronics.
What people watch is often an escape and is not necessarily a reflection of themselves. Again, your two bit psychology with no backup. I have known scientists and college professors who like sitcoms and cartoons. The thing is, they are mature enough to view TV as escapism and entertainment rather than a yardstick as a measure of real life.
I didn't say you were judging me. I am saying you
are
judging those who choose to watch the TV shows you do not approve of.
You are
calling shows with silly sex and bathroom humor kiddy porn and worse which they
are not. You are seeing much more in them than most people see.
That is what is
in your mind and so you are more offended than most.
No, I wasn't calling those shows kiddy porn, what I was saying is, according to your logic, there could actually be people who watch real kiddy porn for entertainment but who are perfectly normal people, right? It's just entertainment, it's just a release. Nothing wrong with people who find kiddy porn entertaining, right?
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What people watch is often an escape and is not necessarily a reflection of
themselves
So I can watch kiddy porn and that says nothing about my character, right?
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I have known scientists and college professors who like sitcoms and
cartoons. The thing is, they are mature enough to view TV as escapism and
entertainment rather than a yardstick as a measure of real life.
There comes a time in any argument or a debate where further participation is no longer productive. I think we've hit that point. You have your opinion and I have mine, and neither of us are going to change the others minds.
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