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As a standalone though the votes appear to be there already, Reid just didn't want to remove it from the bill for possible leverage. I'm betting he wanted the other stuff in their passed so badly that he thought keeping unemployed in there would make the republicans feel sorry enough to vote for it no matter what was in there. They didn't fall for it and now it's time to give in.
But will he? We think he HAS to, but he doesn't have to do anything. I hope he does, but he's disappointed us more than once in the past few months.
My 26 week claim ends in 1.9 weeks. I've given up hope for an extension and am making plans about where my DH and I will be putting our tent. I've been looking for 10 months and haven't even been able to find even a part-time job. I've decided I'm no longer going to stress myself out about getting an extension. It's politics as usual in Washington DC and the politicians don't give a rat's *** about us. I've called my mortgage company and they are sending me a loan modification packet to see if we qualify. Hopefully that helps so we can try and keep a roof over our head at least.
My 26 week claim ends in 1.9 weeks. I've given up hope for an extension and am making plans about where my DH and I will be putting our tent. I've been looking for 10 months and haven't even been able to find even a part-time job. I've decided I'm no longer going to stress myself out about getting an extension. It's politics as usual in Washington DC and the politicians don't give a rat's *** about us. I've called my mortgage company and they are sending me a loan modification packet to see if we qualify. Hopefully that helps so we can try and keep a roof over our head at least.
You should still be eligible for state EB - this from the MN dol website -
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Federal Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) begins to phase-out the week of May 30 - June 5, 2010. This phase-out* affects applicants who exhaust regular state unemployment benefits or one of the EUC tiers. Instead of applying for EUC or moving to the next tier, applicants who exhaust benefits will apply for Federal-State Extended Benefits (EB).
This means: If you exhaust regular state unemployment benefits with a payment for the week of May 23 - May 29, or later, you will apply for Federal-State Extended Benefits (EB).
If you exhaust one of the EUC tiers with a payment for the week of May 30 - June 5, 2010, or later, you will apply for Federal-State Extended Benefits (EB).
Just saying, "Don't get your hopes up." An awful lot of us are counting on this and I'm afraid ppl. will be deeply shocked/hurt when nothing happens...it can't go on forever, it must end sometime and the time may have come unfortunately.
It can't go on forever, but it shouldn't be done so "abruptly" either. Having an extension until October or November or December and making clear it is likely the last extension gives plenty of time to adjust.
It can't go on forever, but it shouldn't be done so "abruptly" either. Having an extension until October or November or December and making clear it is likely the last extension gives plenty of time to adjust.
Agree - if they want to revert to the usual 26 weeks of regular and state EB for those states that will still offer it regardless of federal funding - at least enact one more deadline extension with notice that it's the FINAL one.
While we are awaiting word from the House on stand-alone legislation, I prepared this summary of two bills still pending in the Senate to give you a sense of where things stand now...
There are two different bills still pending in the Senate that isolate the extension of federal unemployment benefits. I have summarized them below.
Basically, Reid did not want to break the UI provisions out of the tax extenders, so neither bill went anywhere. But both are still viable and can be revived for amendment, consideration, and debate at any time.
(1) S.3420.IS: Essentially, Grassley's bill provides temporary [30-day] extensions into July - a deadline that which would probably be lengthened further at this stage. Because Grassley's bill was introduced in May, it has a few more programs in addition to unemployment benefits (so they would probably be trimmed if the bill is raised for reconsideration). Grassley's unemployment benefits include: (a) the EUC Tiers; (b) 100% funding for EB; and (c) the COBRA premium subsidy. No extension of the eligibility cut-off date for the $25 weekly FAC payment. And, of course, the programs in Grassley's bill are "pay-go" -- entirely paid for by Stimulus Funds.
(2) S.3520: Stabenow's bill re-extends the eligibility cut-off dates through December 31, 2010. Because her bill was introduced in June, it covers federal unemployment benefits solely. Stabenow's unemployment benefits include: (a) the EUC Tiers; and (b) 100% funding for EB. No extension of the eligibility cut-off dates for the COBRA premium subsidy or for the $25 weekly FAC payment. The bill recommends that the programs be treated as "emergency expenses" -- however, it leaves the final funding decision to the Senate Budget Committee (so there's a "little wiggle room" there for compromise).
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[I.] S.3420.IS - Protecting Against Indebting our Descendants through Fully Offset Relief (PAID FOR) Temporary Extension Act of 2010
Introduced on 05/25/2010, by Sentor Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).
This bill includes: (a) temporary extension of certain federal unemployment benefits program; (b) Medicare physician payment update ("doc fix" - already passed as stand-alone legislation); (c) extension of flood insurance program; (d) small business loan guarantee
For Federal Unemployment Benefits -- extends eligibility cut-off dates for:
• EUC Tiers to July 7, 2010
• 100% federal funding for EB to July 7, 2010
• COBRA premium subsidy to June 30, 2010 [Note: eligibility cut-off date for $25 weekly FAC payment not extended.]
Effective dates:
All extensions retroactive to May/June 2010 cut-off dates in prior legislation.
Sources of funding:
All programs considered as "Pay-Go" -- to be underwritten by Stimulus Fund
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[II.] S.3520 - Unemployment Insurance Extension Act of 2010
Introduced on 06/22/2010, by Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich).
This bill includes only extensions of certain unemployment benefits programs.
For Federal Unemployment Benefits -- extends eligibility cut-off dates for:
• EUC Tiers to December 31, 2010
• 100% federal funding for EB to December 31, 2010 [Note: eligibility cut-off dates for COBRA premium subsidy and for $25 weekly FAC payment not extended.]
Effective dates:
All extensions retroactive to May/June 2010 cut-off dates in prior legislation.
Sources of funding:
All programs tentatively suggested as "emergency spending" -- but bill states that final determination of emergency funding versus pay-go funding will be determined by the Senate Budget Committee's review of both considerations (a little "wiggle room" for compromise).
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I aslo want to take the time to say to you that I trust your information. Why because 99% of the time you present facts. I don't know how you get the information but I do check it out after you post it. I have almost always find it to be the facts.
I will not get into a debate here with anyone about diorgirl, if you can come here with facts that's what makes this forum so useful for most of us.
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While we are awaiting word from the House on stand-alone legislation, I prepared this summary of two bills still pending in the Senate to give you a sense of where things stand now...
There are two different bills still pending in the Senate that isolate the extension of federal unemployment benefits. I have summarized them below.
Basically, Reid did not want to break the UI provisions out of the tax extenders, so neither bill went anywhere. But both are still viable and can be revived for amendment, consideration, and debate at any time.
(1) S.3420.IS: Essentially, Grassley's bill provides temporary [30-day] extensions into July - a deadline that which would probably be lengthened further at this stage. Because Grassley's bill was introduced in May, it has a few more programs in addition to unemployment benefits (so they would probably be trimmed if the bill is raised for reconsideration). Grassley's unemployment benefits include: (a) the EUC Tiers; (b) 100% funding for EB; and (c) the COBRA premium subsidy. No extension of the eligibility cut-off date for the $25 weekly FAC payment. And, of course, the programs in Grassley's bill are "pay-go" -- entirely paid for by Stimulus Funds.
(2) S.3520: Stabenow's bill re-extends the eligibility cut-off dates through December 31, 2010. Because her bill was introduced in June, it covers federal unemployment benefits solely. Stabenow's unemployment benefits include: (a) the EUC Tiers; and (b) 100% funding for EB. No extension of the eligibility cut-off dates for the COBRA premium subsidy or for the $25 weekly FAC payment. The bill recommends that the programs be treated as "emergency expenses" -- however, it leaves the final funding decision to the Senate Budget Committee (so there's a "little wiggle room" there for compromise).
What are the chances of these being pulled out from the Committee on Finance?
Why hasn't Pelosi or anyone else mentioned that these options are available to the Senate?
What are the chances of these being pulled out from the Committee on Finance?
I haven't heard anyone in the Senate stepping forward to move either of these forward yet. But we start a new week tomorrow -- and it is also very possible that members of the House could use either bill as a prototype for drafting their own bill.
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Why hasn't Pelosi or anyone else mentioned that these options are available to the Senate?
As a matter of protocol, it would be highly unusual for Pelosi or anyone else in the House to publicly tell Reid or another Senator how to proceed with legislation introduced in the Senate and not yet moved to the House.
Until the bill is officially subject to House scrutiny -- or if the bill has already been passed by the House and is in play in the Senate -- legislators at the federal level generally do not comment on the activities of the other chamber.
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