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Old 04-23-2020, 05:39 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Hard to believe it mutated that much, that fast, in light of how infectious it is.
i.e. the virus didn't need to mutate in order to survive.


HIV segments have apparently been found in the sequenced novel corona virus 19. Prof. Luc Montagnie](Nobel for discovery of HIV) just this last week was being grilled on French TV, as he stated that a bit of the HIV sequence is clearly evident in the sequenced virus, and this is indisputable proof that, in fact, it has passed through human hands. He posits an unfortunate escape from the Wuhan facility. He also notes that the HIV sequence in question has been progressively degraded, as the constant mutations jumble and smooth out the genome of this CCP virus. He also suggests (though this was consciously ignored by the group of people on air) that electromagnetic manipulation might be a way to control or deactivate it. It should also be noted that he has followed up on the work of water memory by the French researcher Dr. Benvenista.
You mean the creation of HIV?

 
Old 04-23-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You mean the creation of HIV?
No, identification of the virus.
 
Old 04-23-2020, 07:28 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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...Several scientists in different countries have picked apart the virus' DNA & found it to be human-engineered. But the patent for one strain of it states, that such patents typically are granted for purposes of developing a vaccine...

Yes, the CW is that china was trying to "show up" the USA, & the rest of the world, by creating a vaccine before anyone else.


Then, the china lab accidentally let it escape the lab
 
Old 04-23-2020, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Yes, the CW is that china was trying to "show up" the USA, & the rest of the world, by creating a vaccine before anyone else.


Then, the china lab accidentally let it escape the lab
Why not just create a vaccine for an existing virus? Why invent a new virus?
 
Old 04-23-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Why not just create a vaccine for an existing virus? Why invent a new virus?

Because they're morons.
 
Old 04-24-2020, 02:18 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Montagnier has turned into a crank. There is no such thing as "water memory".
...And you know this how? I believe you cannot prove a negative and you are assuring us that you can - again.

Thats the second time you are trying to say something is not possible. If we are going by beliefs, then I believe water does hold a memory as homeopathy (as used by Swiss doctors in Switzerland) would 'prove'.
 
Old 04-24-2020, 02:42 AM
 
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In spite of all the anti this-country or anti that-country there are many things which go on behind the scenes which show how normal people and scientists just get on with business and life and leave the political people to make all the news. USA-Russia has been collaborating in space for ages otherwise there was no way the ISS can be serviced. OK, now there might be US companies which can help with
this, but before them it was the Russians.

26 million is terrible. I think things are still going to get a lot worse I am afraid. It will take quite a few months before the effects of this virus (like a bad case of the 'trots') pass through the economy and out the other end.

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Job losses from the coronavirus pandemic in the United States climbed to 26.4 million, as Congress on Thursday was poised to approve a new stimulus measure and governors in some states move to slowly reopen businesses.

Sobering data released by the Labor Department showed 4.4 million US workers filed new claims for jobless benefits in the week that ended April 18, underscoring the damage done to the world's largest economy by the crisis.

The figure represents a drop from recent weeks, but the weekly totals are many times higher than any recorded during the global financial crisis starting in 2008, as virus lockdown measures force businesses to close nationwide.
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Calling the jobless figure "extraordinarily elevated," Nancy Vanden Houten of Oxford Economics predicted the US was on track for a spike in the unemployment rate to 24 percent.

That is a reversal of fortune that was unthinkable at the beginning of the year, when the rate was in the low single digits.
Source
 
Old 04-24-2020, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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...And you know this how? I believe you cannot prove a negative and you are assuring us that you can - again.

Thats the second time you are trying to say something is not possible. If we are going by beliefs, then I believe water does hold a memory as homeopathy (as used by Swiss doctors in Switzerland) would 'prove'.
There is no evidence that water memory exists.

https://www.livescience.com/61273-ho...er-memory.html

You are free to believe in water memory and homeopathy if you wish.
 
Old 04-24-2020, 04:09 AM
 
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Yes, the CW is that china was trying to "show up" the USA, & the rest of the world, by creating a vaccine before anyone else.


Then, the china lab accidentally let it escape the lab
"The CW?" Is that some kind of code from your secret society?
 
Old 04-24-2020, 06:52 AM
 
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No, identification of the virus.
Says you.

You never did answer my question about your medical background...
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