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Old 12-19-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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You're an Asian from Asia? I was talking about your perspective, your countrymen's perspectives, our continent's perspectives. I don't care if a Vietnamese thinks 30C is hot, never said a word about them.

I said: I think most Europeans think that 30C is hot. If YOU don't think it is, you're in a minority.
Europe is just one out of several continents dear, so what Swedes or Icelanders (or Frenchmen) think is irrelevant on a global scale. I'm just really tired of hearing the "omggggg people think 15°C is cold" when half of the people on this forum would be getting a heatstroke at 30°C while it's a perfectly ordinary temperature for half of the world. Not everyone lives in Finland.

And no I'm not Asian but I lived in a "absolutely unlivable city weatherwise" according to most members of this forum, where January lows are warmer than your July highs, and did just fine.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Sedalia MO
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What about Central London's winter minimums, almost 10 degrees further north?

03/04: -2.1C
04/05: -1.7C
05/06: -2.2C
06/07: -0.5C
07/08: -0.8C
08/09: -2.7C
09/10: -3.2C
10/11: no data
11/12: -3.8C
Wow, central London must be a lot like New York City!! Those are minimum temps that are even warmer than those of Atlanta (33N) or Dallas (32N)!!
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Central London is terrible for cold lovers.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:56 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Wow, central London must be a lot like New York City!! Those are minimum temps that are even warmer than those of Atlanta (33N) or Dallas (32N)!!
Central London is much warmer than NYC in winter. Heathrow Airport away from the heat island usually records -4 to -6C most years. The average winter low is 2-3C in the suburbs and 3-5C in the centre.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Laurentia
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The squabbling over which temperature is cold and whose opinions matter sounds petty to me. It should suffice to say that it depends on the person, but there are some objectivities involved, such as one's own concept of what constitutes actual cold.

To elaborate, perhaps when we think of "cold" each of us imagines a different sensation. For instance, a Manitoban may think of -10F weather, a New Yorker may think of 30F weather, and a Floridian may think of a 50F rain. Even if we were all the same, preference-wise, there would be differences of opinion, but these differences are further enhanced by our differing builds. Assuming we have the same clothing, Dhdh probably feels colder at 30F than I do at 0F (once acclimatized). Sure, it's an extreme example, but it does illustrate the point.

To call 34F cold and 0F brutal strikes me as ridiculous, but more objectively it devalues the words. When 30, 40, or 50F are cold, then that makes it necessary to use different adjectives to describe the very different sensations of 0F and 20F. Thus 20's are rebranded as bitter cold, and 0F becomes brutal cold. However, -20F, -40F, -60F, and -100F are also very different sensations that exist on our planet, but they're lumped into the same category of brutal cold, which really should be reserved for the most brutal sensations of cold; in my opinion -40F at the mildest.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:28 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Central London is much warmer than NYC in winter. Heathrow Airport away from the heat island usually records -4 to -6C most years. The average winter low is 2-3C in the suburbs and 3-5C in the centre.
Yeh, they're not really in the same league. NYC is much more prone to cold snaps.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Usually and as an average, the third week in January, every other year, there might be two or three nights were it will go down to 29-30 degrees. The tropical plants take a beating.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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NYC gets almost 47 inches of rain a year, as opposed to 36 inches for Seattle and a shade over 15 inches here in Los Angeles.

How much rain does London get in an average year?

The expected low temperature here tonight will be 38 degrees, which is very cold for LA---feel free to laugh.
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:52 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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34f isn't cold. But if you don't think 0f isn't cold you are nuts.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:02 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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How much rain does London get in an average year?
23 inches.
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