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Old 12-20-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: York
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Look at Cornwall and Devon, the summers there are no warmer than Yorkshire, maybe even cooler and we are 250 miles further north!
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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He is always banging on about how 8C would be mild in Scotland and Northern Ireland - Northern Ireland is nowhere near as cold as Scotland, it isn't even in the same league, and many places in NI even inland, have average highs approaching 8C in winter, such as Castlederg.

In reality, Northern Ireland isn't very cold, it is far more prone to Atlantic attacks than anywhere in England bar the SW.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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All hail mighty england.

Bow down, bow down.

Will I jack.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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I was just saying that it's interesting because Atlanta's average January low ranges from 34F to 35F, and London's January low is almost exactly the same, at 36F for the entirety of the month.
Although, I concede that London is colder overall than Atlanta (of course that's to be expected when comparing London to a city at the same latitude as Baghdad!). London's daytime highs during the winter are mostly in the 40s, while Atlanta can experience spikes to above 60F during the winter, and Atlanta's average highs are around 52F.

That gulf stream is a HUGE plus for a country so far outside of the tropics!
Temperatures over 52F in winter are rare and our average high is around 44F, btw we do get snow and cold temperatures around 32F during the day and 25F at night is seen every winter. But the very centre of London can be very mild but move 4 or 6 miles out you would feel the differnce in temp especially during our cold spells. Our record low is only -10C and surprisingly our record high is 38C not that far off Atlanta's 41C! But yes London is much cooler overall and that London record high not being approached closest we get in a average year is 30C.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Average high in London is over 46.

But, I was just about to say that London can get cold in the winter under an Easterly feed. Again, disproving averages.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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He is always banging on about how 8C would be mild in Scotland and Northern Ireland - Northern Ireland is nowhere near as cold as Scotland, it isn't even in the same league, and many places in NI even inland, have average highs approaching 8C in winter, such as Castlederg.

In reality, Northern Ireland isn't very cold, it is far more prone to Atlantic attacks than anywhere in England bar the SW.
Exactly Northern Ireland is more prone to the mild crap than the island of great britain excluding the southwest. Scotland and most of eastern england is wayyyyy more exposed to that cold continetal air.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Sedalia MO
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An average winter in Atlanta would be nothing like an average winter in London.

The average high is actually approaching 54 which is not winter type temperatures.
You are correct in that winter highs in London are more sustained at chilly temperatures (though not bitterly cold) than they are in Atlanta. Obviously, England doesn't get the occasional spikes into the 60s that the southern U.S. does. However, I'm looking at the forecast for London right now, and the low temperatures are generally staying between 40F and 48F! In late December lol! So basically, what you have in London is an average temperature overall, in January, of around 41F. In Atlanta, the average temperature overall, in January, is around 43F (when you take the average between 52F and 34F). Not that much different at all.

Oh, and I do realize that London is one of the warmest spots in your country because of the heat island. But Atlanta has a heat island as well. So it is a fair comparison. If one travels into the outer Atlanta suburb of Alpharetta, for example, the average January high drops to 48F and the average low drops to 28F. Now that is easily just as cold as London overall.

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Old 12-20-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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You are correct in that winter highs in London are more sustained at chilly temperatures (though not bitterly cold) than they are in Atlanta. Obviously, England doesn't get the occasional spikes into the 60s that the southern U.S. does. However, I'm looking at the forecast for London right now, and the low temperatures are generally staying between 40F and 48F! In late December lol! So basically, what you have in London is an average temperature overall, in January, of around 41F. In Atlanta, the average temperature overall, in January, is around 43F (when you take the average between 52F and 34F). Not that much different at all.
The average here is 3/4c. Um, the temperatures have been down at 2/3c as maxes for the past few weeks. Even today it was 5c and we are supposedly in a mild spell. London, however was not as cold as us but it was colder than 8c alot of times. Right now, we are about to have a spell of extremely mild weather for December.

BUT, it will last less than 12 hours and then by next week we will have a NW, so if you had've looked last week or the week before it would've been a different story. Infact only Tuesday it was 28f.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Sedalia MO
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The average here is 3/4c. Um, the temperatures have been down at 2/3c as maxes for the past few weeks. Even today it was 5c and we are supposedly in a mild spell. London, however was not as cold as us but it was colder than 8c alot of times. Right now, we are about to have a spell of extremely mild weather for December.

BUT, it will last less than 12 hours and then by next week we will have a NW, so if you had've looked last week or the week before it would've been a different story. Infact only Tuesday it was 28f.
Okay, you're correct. It was quite cold in England last week! I definitely can't say that Atlanta has been anywhere near that cold so far this December! I suppose I'm mostly just talking about averages and trends.
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Old 12-20-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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You are correct in that winter highs in London are more sustained at chilly temperatures (though not bitterly cold) than they are in Atlanta. Obviously, England doesn't get the occasional spikes into the 60s that the southern U.S. does. However, I'm looking at the forecast for London right now, and the low temperatures are generally staying between 40F and 48F! In late December lol! So basically, what you have in London is an average temperature overall, in January, of around 41F. In Atlanta, the average temperature overall, in January, is around 43F (when you take the average between 52F and 34F). Not that much different at all.

Oh, and I do realize that London is one of the warmest spots in your country because of the heat island. But Atlanta has a heat island as well. So it is a fair comparison. If one travels into the outer Atlanta suburb of Alpharetta, for example, the average January high drops to 48F and the average low drops to 28F. Now that is easily just as cold as London overall.
Yes but we are going through a mild spell. Next week its going back to 8C during the day and 2 to 4C at night. You say not that much difference but as you said chilly temperatures are stable and add a cold westerly wind and steady rain it would feel colder.
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