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Wrong on every level. It depends on how much someone is willing to work for, not any theoretical value of the work.
People don't want to work for peanuts, and employers are bitching because that doesn't fit their business model.
And yes, employees should share in the profits if employers expect any loyalty. Most professional jobs offer stock incentives, but the peons get nothing even though many times they are the face of the company (retail).
Why would a clerk at 7-11 give a crap whether a customer waits for five minutes at the counter while he's taking a crap? That sale means nothing to him. But if his pay was tied to performance of that store, things might be different.
Most better retail operations do offer bonus incentive plans which are based on profitability.
My company offers a bonus scheme that is tied to meeting labor hour goals on various projects.
Most better retail operations do offer bonus incentive plans which are based on profitability.
My company offers a bonus scheme that is tied to meeting labor hour goals on various projects.
So, the bonus is based on reducing labor hours......either thats counterproductive to the actual labor, or this is some bonus only directed towards management.
It is 2012 gas is 4 dollars a gallon rent food everything is higher. But wages are falling in most cases for most jobs. I made 10 bucks an hour as a temp in 2011. My grandpa's plant paid 11.50 an hour in 1986 full medical. This was just a starting out wage floor help trades guys made alot more. Andy posted how he made 14 bucks an hour in a machine shop entry level job 10 years later he said those jobs pay 12 bucks an hour. And I bet their are shops starting people at 10 bucks an hour because they can get away with it. Like my Mom says you get what you pay for they want tons of skills ten bucks an hour I see it all the time. If you want good workers you will have to pay for them. Everything is part time temp freelance 1099 anything to keep from paying a living wage. We are on a race to the bottom. So you have to be a rocket scientists or have niche IT skills to make a living wage? Business wants big profits but pay their workers nothing you can not have it both ways. Something has to give at some point.
I had a friend who worked a temp job where there were incentives for productivity. The result was the job ended a week early due to the high productivity. In return at the end, the employee received a $20 gift card (the bonus) though she saved the company tens of thousands with her hard work.
In retaliation, she sabotaged everything on the last day of work and the company lost the contract for the next phase of the project.
It is 2012 gas is 4 dollars a gallon rent food everything is higher. But wages are falling in most cases for most jobs. I made 10 bucks an hour as a temp in 2011. My grandpa's plant paid 11.50 an hour in 1986 full medical. This was just a starting out wage floor help trades guys made alot more. Andy posted how he made 14 bucks an hour in a machine shop entry level job 10 years later he said those jobs pay 12 bucks an hour. And I bet their are shops starting people at 10 bucks an hour because they can get away with it. Like my Mom says you get what you pay for they want tons of skills ten bucks an hour I see it all the time. If you want good workers you will have to pay for them. Everything is part time temp freelance 1099 anything to keep from paying a living wage. We are on a race to the bottom. So you have to be a rocket scientists or have niche IT skills to make a living wage? Business wants big profits but pay their workers nothing you can not have it both ways. Something has to give at some point.
Yes, employers want to pay peanuts these days. They are taking advantage of the fact that there's millions out there seeking for work.
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Originally Posted by Sharecropper
In retaliation, she sabotaged everything on the last day of work and the company lost the contract for the next phase of the project.
I had a friend who worked a temp job where there were incentives for productivity. The result was the job ended a week early due to the high productivity. In return at the end, the employee received a $20 gift card (the bonus) though she saved the company tens of thousands with her hard work.
In retaliation, she sabotaged everything on the last day of work and the company lost the contract for the next phase of the project.
I had a friend who worked a temp job where there were incentives for productivity. The result was the job ended a week early due to the high productivity. In return at the end, the employee received a $20 gift card (the bonus) though she saved the company tens of thousands with her hard work.
In retaliation, she sabotaged everything on the last day of work and the company lost the contract for the next phase of the project.
Sure hope that company learned a lesson - talk about karma payback...lol. Not that I condone such a thing, just saying that people can and often do react in rather unpredictable (or should that be predictable?) ways...
I dont consider employment that doesnt pay a living wage a job at all.
So what do you suggest an employer should pay someone who has no marketable skills and doesn't even have a GED? A person who has poor math skills and no computer skills? What is this person worth and why?
The world has changed not just for American workers but for American companies and it may never go back to the way it once was. Economists call it the rise of the lonely and lovely or the polarization of the job market.
American companies now need to compete in a global marketplace and the ones that are doing things to make themselves competitive will be around in 5 years. The US Postal Service is the largest employer besides Wal-Mart. Remember when Wal-Mart only sold American? They course corrected (180 degrees) because of the global marketplace and are profitable and despite many people's negative feelings, are a macro economic force in the US that employs many people. The US Postal Service didn't really change their ways and they are insolvent now.
Don't blame the employers - they have to change if they want to survive.
Sure hope that company learned a lesson - talk about karma payback...lol. Not that I condone such a thing, just saying that people can and often do react in rather unpredictable (or should that be predictable?) ways...
She went way overboard. But to spit on someone and not expect to be socked in the kisser is a bit naive.
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