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Old 03-09-2014, 09:26 AM
 
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The new company I just got hired for asks for all previous w2s from other companies I worked for. They want 2008-2013 w2 forms, is this an odd request? Anyway I sent them 2008-2012 but I can't obtain the 2013 one (because I worked under the table but i can't tell them that).do you think that because I can't obtain the one form it will affect my employement? I already got hired this is like an after hire process...any input??
I know what Pitney does and have phone interviewed with them before I got my "real" job.
The position is related to onsite, contract office/document work?
They never mentioned to me anything about W2's to me *YiKes*
My persona opinion is weird, but I stick by it. Anyone who uses Taleo software for hiring process is a McJob. You will be moving on at some point in time, anyway
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:28 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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There is no way in hell I would hand over my W-2s. My husband spent his career in executive level positions and was NEVER asked for such info and would have engaged an attorney had he been asked.

My BIL works for Pitney Bowes - has for years - and he has never been asked for such info. Permission to run a credit check, yes. W-2s, no.
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Old 03-09-2014, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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There is no way in hell I would hand over my W-2s. My husband spent his career in executive level positions and was NEVER asked for such info and would have engaged an attorney had he been asked.

My BIL works for Pitney Bowes - has for years - and he has never been asked for such info. Permission to run a credit check, yes. W-2s, no.
Engage an attorney? To what end?

IMHO, checking credit is way more intrusive and irrelevant than asking for a copy of a W2.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:24 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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My suggestion is to provide a w-2 with all the financial information on it redacted with black marker. That should be enough to verify employment which is the only information the employer has any business having.
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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My suggestion is to provide a w-2 with all the financial information on it redacted with black marker. That should be enough to verify employment which is the only information the employer has any business having.
it is even more nefarious to me that they are asking for it after an offer has been made. Why? It's probably to collect salary information across the board. If enough people comply they have their own internal controls for which to push their averages down in what they offer and negotiate on certain positions.

As has been discussed (well, maybe not here as I don't think the naysayers here have bothered to do research on this) the w-2 does not list your total benefit package. It just lists your salary and exemptions (rather, how much you actually worked that year).

What a person accepts for salary at job a can have absolutley no bearing on job b. This is something I tried to explain to the company that wanted to see my pay stubs. First, since I was trying to decide between my current company and the new one, this was an instant strike against the new one, but I also knew their benefit packages at the new one were going to be nothing like my new company. I explained that my salary at my company would not be what I'd expect with them as my stock options would go away, along with new/worse health insurance, less pto, etc. including a new company with fewer prospects in my field for long term employment. Apples and oranges.

There are really no good reasons to ask for w-2's or pay stubs that favor the employee, it is in favor of the company.

what these companies fail to realize is they are losing if they ask this information especially if the person (like I did) was in a secure job already (With better benefits and ethics).

I make a good salary and it would be to my benefit to be honest about it and I've been continuously employed, but I'm interviewing the company just as they are interviewing me and this is a bad way to get started with each other.

Companies have no business hiring experts if they don't know how to evaluate them. In my field you can't fumble or lie your way through an interivew, that is unless the person doing the interview has absolutley no relation the feild.

Enter: foreign recruiters and the type of body shop contractors that were trying to get desperate people to paid as low as possible.

I wasn't done with this topic, I'm done responding to people who obviously have some connection to recruiting and want people to believe this is a common and ethical practice by coming after each person who posts the common reaction to this, which is "wtf"

Even most HR departments are not this base.
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: oHIo
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right. ok. also don't forget to bend over and stick your arse out so they can have more fun with you. - and while your at it, also jump off the Empire State building when they tell you to jump. ( are you for real<>?)
And make sure you submit blood, urine, saliva, hair, skin, sperm and fecal matter for drug testing, too.

I would flip these a**holes the bird, but I understand times are tough...
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:29 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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All the jobs I had in the past 16 years has never ever requested a W-2 form
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Old 03-09-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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All the jobs I had in the past 16 years has never ever requested a W-2 form
I'm trying to remember if this was even asked for when I went through my security clearance process. I don't think it was. I remember once in my early career I needed my w-2 for something but I can't remember what it was.

I have however given blood samples and drug tests lol.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:15 PM
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I'm trying to remember if this was even asked for when I went through my security clearance process. I don't think it was. I remember once in my early career I needed my w-2 for something but I can't remember what it was.

I have however given blood samples and drug tests lol.

yes those tests are required for some jobs
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Old 03-09-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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The new company I just got hired for asks for all previous w2s from other companies I worked for. They want 2008-2013 w2 forms, is this an odd request? Anyway I sent them 2008-2012 but I can't obtain the 2013 one (because I worked under the table but i can't tell them that).do you think that because I can't obtain the one form it will affect my employement? I already got hired this is like an after hire process...any input??
I can't believe they asked you for six years of W2s and you GAVE it to them without question.

Did they ask you for this while on the job or before you come into work for them?

Either way, I'd do what another poster suggested and get a fake one from Office Depot, since they want to be nosey.

I never would have given it to them. Asking for W2s is very, very invasive. If you really need the job, then give them a fake one. They're ass>>>les.
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