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i honestly dont know anybody over the age of 22 that makes minimum wages, you can take a 40 class on safety on the internet that would qualify you as a safety technician and they pay about $17 a hour, you can dig ditches as a plumber helper for $15, or even one of those utilities line locators pay more than minimum
I know tons of older adults who work in fast food or at Wal Mart. And they aren't old, retired folks just doing it for extra money or to get out of the house. They are in their 30s and 40s; supporting families. But like you said, they could do something else for slightly more money. There are lots of jobs in the area where I live. I think they have just grown dependent on fast food jobs and don't want to learn new skills.
I think fast food places stopped hiring teenagers, that's when their problems started. They started hiring older workers who demanded $15 an hour, because they are supporting families. These places would have been smart to stick with hiring kids.
One can easily get the experience by being an intern, during college.
Right now, my office has about 2 dozen doing just that. We happen to pay them a wage, some corps do not pay them, but the value for them is less the wage , and more the experience.
Sure but other companies do ask for 2+ year experience and 3+ year specific experience on top of the degree for "entry level work." You know that is true.
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I know tons of older adults who work in fast food or at Wal Mart. And they aren't old, retired folks just doing it for extra money or to get out of the house. They are in their 30s and 40s; supporting families. But like you said, they could do something else for slightly more money. There are lots of jobs in the area where I live. I think they have just grown dependent on fast food jobs and don't want to learn new skills.
I think fast food places stopped hiring teenagers, that's when their problems started. They started hiring older workers who demanded $15 an hour, because they are supporting families. These places would have been smart to stick with hiring kids.
And part of that is due to increasing costs to college for re-training. I am not sure when it was that we saw fewer and fewer high school students working McJobs, BUT once they did they were replaced by college students and the older workers. A number by me are the typical Walmart worker age. Why, because their schedule is mostly flexible. People forget the earliest we can get high schoolers in is about 2:30/3:00 on most days. Maybe an hour earlier for seniors. That is after the lunch rush is done and breakfasts were done long ago.
Sure but other companies do ask for 2+ year experience and 3+ year specific experience on top of the degree for "entry level work." You know that is true.
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One can easily get the experience by being an intern, during college.
The problem is that if the intern doesn't transition into a full time job from that internship, they become totally unqualified for an entry level position.
An entry level position that requires 2-3 years experience is not satisfied with one 6 month internship.
Then your organization is in a tiny minority. I haven't seen an internship for recent grads or career changes in ages (and I'm trying to do a career change).
Then your organization is in a tiny minority. I haven't seen an internship for recent grads or career changes in ages (and I'm trying to do a career change).
It is less common because of better or worse of the intern lawsuits where people are not paid for work that could be paid for. While in college, it is easier to go unpaid though it is getting rarer due to the fine lines established in the post-recession exploitation of interns.
The fact is, we will see far too many people lose jobs due to automation over the next decade or so for the current economy to not have a sizable contraction. Simply put, there wont be enough replacement jobs and if today's job market (while better than a few years ago) is any indication of things to come, there will be far too many under-qualified with no way to become qualified for the new jobs.
there will be far too many under-qualified with no way to become qualified for the new jobs.
Because there are no jobs that require no experience. Both recent grads and career changers get hit by the catch-22. Employers don't count a career changer's previous experience in a previous role. Apparently, they believe that a career changer who rocked at their old role, will learn something new (do well in school, certifications) and become a blithering idiot in the new role. Employers don't value people who are adaptable.
Because there are no jobs that require no experience. Both recent grads and career changers get hit by the catch-22. Employers don't count a career changer's previous experience in a previous role. Apparently, they believe that a career changer who rocked at their old role, will learn something new (do well in school, certifications) and become a blithering idiot in the new role. Employers don't value people who are adaptable.
Well everyone had no experience at one time, so by your logic no one has a job. see a problem with your logic?
Well everyone had no experience at one time, so by your logic no one has a job. see a problem with your logic?
Those who currently have jobs found an employer who took the risk at hiring them when they had zero experience. It was pure luck. 100% chance.
That's the problem.
Now, bring a solution to the problem instead of snark. How do you expect people to get around the catch-22 of no job, no experience; no experience, no job?
or are people only supposed to get a job through luck with zero reliance on skillset?
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see a problem with your logic?
