Do you think that in the future I'll be unhirable for this?

[fishbrains]

Originally Posted by RamenAddict

I still haven’t figured out what an “LGBT lifestyle” is. Most of the LGBT people I know do the same things everyone else does.

I think the OP objects to people who go to the theater.

Stereotypes aside, you are correct. People I know who identify as LGBT have pretty much the same lifestyle is people I know who are straight.

Some live in cities, some live in rural areas. Some are fitness buffs, some are overweight, some like outdoor activities, some don’t. Some are in committed relationships, others are not.

[elvira310]

Originally Posted by HokieFan

I agree.

I believe that it's when your biases affect how you treat people (co-workers, customers, etc.) while you're in your professional capacity is what concerns employers.

I agree. It doesn't have to be about "accepting" the gender they identify with, it's just calling them what they want to be called out of politeness. If someone wants to be called some nonsensical name that isn't their given name, you probably do it, wouldn't you? Just to avoid conflict and because they asked you to. Same with this.

Originally Posted by oh-eve

This doesn't make any sense to me. I do not like snails. But I won't spend all my free time hating on them and writing about them. What a miserable life this is??


I am not gay and I don't have any gay friends currently. LGBT is out of my mind for the most. You could completely ignore their existence, why don't you just do that instead of occupying your mind with them and obsessing over it?

This makes perfect sense too.

I am not gay but have some gay friends (back home; don't get to see them often now ). But I just don't think about it very often.

Another thing to remember if you are a religious person is that making someone else miserable when they're not bothering you is usually frowned upon. Pray for God's best for LGBT people but don't say anything to them that would be considered demeaning or unkind. Don't make someone's life harder for them than it already is.

[MongooseHugger]

I can safely say that I will NOT be cooperating with calling a him a "her" or a her a "him" nor will I go down looney lane with the ze, te, or whatever goofy pronoun they've invented either. To ignore biology and use made up gender terms just sounds like a bridge too far (BTW, this is true, I bet, even for some pro-gay people, who think that this gender pronoun stuff is nuts.)

[Lekrii]

Originally Posted by MongooseHugger

I can safely say that I will NOT be cooperating with calling a him a "her" or a her a "him" nor will I go down looney lane with the ze, te, or whatever goofy pronoun they've invented either. To ignore biology and use made up gender terms just sounds like a bridge too far (BTW, this is true, I bet, even for some pro-gay people, who think that this gender pronoun stuff is nuts.)

Why?

It takes literally no effort on your part to call someone what they want to be called. There is no downside to you, and takes no effort on your part to be respectful with what someone prefers to be called.

[treemoni]

Originally Posted by Lekrii

Why?

It takes literally no effort on your part to call someone what they want to be called. There is no downside to you, and takes no effort on your part to be respectful with what someone prefers to be called.

I like what the previous person said about not harming those who aren't harming you. You are trying to impose your beliefs on your coworker. If I were an employer and discovered this, I'd absolutely be looking for a way to terminate you. You have no right to impose your way of life on others. You're taking things too far.

[elvira310]

Originally Posted by Lekrii

Why?

It takes literally no effort on your part to call someone what they want to be called. There is no downside to you, and takes no effort on your part to be respectful with what someone prefers to be called.

You don't have to do it as a gesture of "acceptance," but just out of general politeness and conflict avoidance.

My worry is that when they start coming up with "ze" and other pronouns that it starts to get a little too complicated. I would sincerely try to remember to use the term they preferred, but if someone were to make a big deal about it if I innocently forgot, that would not be okay with me.

[Deserterer]

Originally Posted by MongooseHugger

I can safely say that I will NOT be cooperating with calling a him a "her" or a her a "him" nor will I go down looney lane with the ze, te, or whatever goofy pronoun they've invented either. To ignore biology and use made up gender terms just sounds like a bridge too far (BTW, this is true, I bet, even for some pro-gay people, who think that this gender pronoun stuff is nuts.)

Can you explain why other people's sexual activity or orientation or identification is any of your business? What's your educational background in biology? How do you know what people's genitalia look like? When Bob changes to Roberta or vice versa, how do you know she wasn't Roberta or partly Roberta (using your genitalia definitions) all along?



I know a woman who has a beard, and is easy to mistake for a man and that's all due to biology not surgery or hormone therapy. I suppose you'd bash her because she is superficially ambiguous? Or decide that she shouldn't be lesbian and should live alone the rest of her days, even though few men would be interested in her because of her appearance?

[sean1the1]

It is so awesome to see so many completely rational people on CD makes me happy.

[PJSaturn]

This thread has wandered woefully off topic a number of times and was rife with personal attacks and other inappropriate posts. The worst of the inappropriate posts have been deleted. The thread is now closed.