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Old 08-12-2018, 11:10 AM
 
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It's not discriminatory if the reason for turning someone down isn't related to "protected class". .

Correct. Being morally superior is not a protected class but Trump is working on it.



Probably most employers and landlords would want to avoid social controversy of any kind, unless they are very suportive of your side of the controversy. Conservative religious businesses might jump at the chance to hire the OP.

 
Old 08-12-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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It's not discriminatory if the reason for turning someone down isn't related to "protected class".
Yeah. God luck explaining how you turned down a tenant with stellar history because you read some comments online and determined they were "argumentative" and would cause you problems. Better make sure those prospective tenants aren't non-white. To be safe.
 
Old 08-12-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Yeah. God luck explaining how you turned down a tenant with stellar history because you read some comments online and determined they were "argumentative" and would cause you problems. Better make sure those prospective tenants aren't non-white. To be safe.
Explaining to who, exactly?

People falsely accusing other of racism for selfish reasons is always a possibility. If that's the case, document why that person was turned away. Being held hostage by people who will make up racism (or any other discrimination) where there is none is not an acceptable solution.

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Old 08-12-2018, 12:00 PM
 
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The point is, a landlord should not be basing a business decision on random posts he reads online (why are you snooping on prospective tenants anyway, is my question). The criteria for determining whether to rent should be based on a background check, which generally accounts for credit and rental history. If you find no criminal activity, anything else you use to evaluate a tenant is suspect at best, discriminatory at worst. Based on what some of you post here, I can't believe anyone would hire you or allow you to lead a business. But I don't actually know you, do I? A critically thinking person knows people are more likely to be honest about their views online, where there is *some* anonymity, vs. risking alienating people they know IRL. So for you to actively seek "controversial" information that is immaterial to a decision says more about you and the way you think than it does the other person. And that's what you can't seem to grasp.
 
Old 08-12-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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The point is, a landlord should not be basing a business decision on random posts he reads online (why are you snooping on prospective tenants anyway, is my question). The criteria for determining whether to rend should be based on a background check, which generally accounts for credit and rental history. If you find no criminal activity, anything else you use to evaluate a tenant is suspect at best, discriminatory at worse. Based on what some of you post here, I can't believe anyone would hire you or allow you to lead a business. But I don't actually know you, do I? A critically thinking person knows people are more likely to be honest about their views online, where there is *some* anonymity, vs. risking alienating people they know IRL. So for you to actively seek "controversial" information that is immaterial to a decision says more about you and the way you think than it does the other person. And that's what you can't seem to grasp.
You absolutely try to get an idea of what someone's personality is like based on social media before hiring them, bringing them on as tenants, etc. If they are party animals, and you don't want that kind of person as a tenant, you find that in social media. If they are huge bigots, and you don't want to get a reputation of renting to bigoted people, you find that on social media. A background check is not good enough. At the end of the day, it's his or her business. They can base their decisions on whatever they like, as long as they aren't discriminating based on a protected class.

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Old 08-12-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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Explaining to who, exactly?

People falsely accusing other of racism for selfish reasons is always a possibility. If that's the case, document why that person was turned away. Being held hostage by people who will make up racism (or any other discrimination) where there is none is not an acceptable solution.
The best defense against a discrimination complaint is to not discriminate.

Sticking with the workplace subject, my division at work is possible the single most diverse at my workplace. I have more minorities, LGBT staff, diverse political opinions, National origins, and possibly religions than any other group. If somebody ever lodges a discrimination complaint against me, I have the luxury of showing years of non-discriminatory actions in my defense.
 
Old 08-12-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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The point is, a landlord should not be basing a business decision on random posts he reads online (why are you snooping on prospective tenants anyway, is my question). .

Snooping? Since I had a duplex and I lived in the other half, you can be darn sure if I saw that a person's main interests were partying, that they were loud and foul mouthed, I wouldn't give them a second look. When my own quality of life is at stake, then finding out all I can about them, along with criminal history is very important. That 1/4 acre I live on is the one place I can have some control over what comes into my life.
 
Old 08-12-2018, 12:45 PM
 
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The post I was referring to said "argumentative" and mentioned online activity. You can always find reasons to justify otherwise discriminatory actions. It's called "pretext" in the legal world. But we are now off-topic. I've said all I needed to on this particular angle.
 
Old 08-12-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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On moral grounds, I oppose the LGBT lifestyle.
I jsut did a google on myself....There's nothing to show I am also not supporting LGBT lifestyles, but I certainly do not encourage bashing either. To me I have my opinions. If the employer is the type to freak out when an employee farts in a unoccupied room and others hear it...I don't need that kind of employer.
 
Old 08-12-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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I jsut did a google on myself....There's nothing to show I am also not supporting LGBT lifestyles, but I certainly do not encourage bashing either. To me I have my opinions. If the employer is the type to freak out when an employee farts in a unoccupied room and others hear it...I don't need that kind of employer.
I still haven’t figured out what an “LGBT lifestyle” is. Most of the LGBT people I know do the same things everyone else does.
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