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Old 08-10-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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On moral grounds, I oppose the LGBT lifestyle. A bunch of companies have let workers go just for speaking disapproval, whether in books, making donations to things like Proposition 8, posts on Facebook, etc that oppose the gay/trans lifestyle. I have heard rumors that, in time, perhaps 10 years from now, opposing it and it being known your stance will make you as hireable as a known KKK member or Nazi, and I've not exactly covered my tracks. Now, I'm not belligerent like Westboro, but I do like posts on Facebook and have posted my dissent to LGBT on city-data, Facebook, Twitter, etc and it's possible that a Google search could bring up my name or that colleagues could find out (when I did have a temp job, I did make it a point to NOT friend anyone from work on Facebook just in case someone did find out my views) but one cannot keep up their guard forever.


Do you think that if you are a conservative traditional marriage supporter who doesn't keep their views in the closet that you'd be better suited being self-employed than working for someone else?


BTW, just in case you're wondering, I DO NOT plan to change my views just to make myself more "hireable" if it really would make the difference, as morality trumps culture and popularity. (I thought that I'd point this out so that posts like "Just don't say anything" or stuff like that don't apply to me. I know what COULD happen and I'm wondering how likely it will be to happen.)



BTW, I'm not posting stuff that bashes gay/trans people, just stuff that posts my disapproval of the lifestyle.


It has happened before:

Craig James and Fox Sports: College Football Analyst Sues Fox Sports, Claims He Was Fired For Being A Christian | The Daily Caller

Kelvin Cochran and the city of Atlanta: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/201...homosexuality/

Peter Vadala and Brookstone: Massachusetts man fired from corporation over belief in traditional marriage

Officer Eric Moutsos and the Salt Lake City Police Department: Free to Believe

Curt Schilling and ESPN: Fired for this?

Why are you so against the LGBT lifestyle?


How does it have any affect on you in the slightest?


If you wanna be straight, be straight, but someone else's love choices has no bearing on yours.


Stop being an intolerant, close-minded a-hole.

 
Old 08-10-2018, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Enjoy the 18th century.
And you think that being free of socialist slavery* is synonymous with the 18th century?
Interesting.

(*compulsory charity and expropriation of surplus for the benefit of another)
 
Old 08-10-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Central Virginia
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If you refused to call a person by their preferred pronoun, I would verbally warn you, then give you a written warning, then show you the door. That is a matter of basic respect for your fellow humans.
I agree.

I believe that it's when your biases affect how you treat people (co-workers, customers, etc.) while you're in your professional capacity is what concerns employers.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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Absolutely right, Zentropa! I always say that the defining characteristic of anti-gay people is that they *think* they don't know any gay people. (Just like antichoicers think they don't know anyone who's had an abortion.)
Wrong. I'm on an online wikia where I'm an admin and two of my co-admins are bi. Also, in college, I had a guy in our hall who was gay. In all three cases, we got along fine.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 09:25 AM
 
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Wrong. I'm on an online wikia where I'm an admin and two of my co-admins are bi. Also, in college, I had a guy in our hall who was gay. In all three cases, we got along fine.
Unless you know very few people, that is an extraordinarily small number. I can think of several people I have daily contact with who are LGBT, a bunch of relatives, cant count how many friends from along the years I keep in contact with from Facebook, the neighbors down the street, etc.

There are many people who choose not to share their sexuality either. My ex-wife is bi-, but preferred to keep that a deep secret. Even her family didn’t know, and as one of her cousins came out, she still would not acknowledge her past to support her cousin. Ok, my ex- had issues, but she could pass easily as straight in her daily life and preferred to do so.

The fact that your personal experience with LGBT acquaintances is so limited leads me to think you aren’t as circumspect about your attitudes anyone think you are.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by MongooseHugger View Post
On moral grounds, I oppose the LGBT lifestyle. A bunch of companies have let workers go just for speaking disapproval, whether in books, making donations to things like Proposition 8, posts on Facebook, etc that oppose the gay/trans lifestyle. I have heard rumors that, in time, perhaps 10 years from now, opposing it and it being known your stance will make you as hireable as a known KKK member or Nazi, and I've not exactly covered my tracks. Now, I'm not belligerent like Westboro, but I do like posts on Facebook and have posted my dissent to LGBT on city-data, Facebook, Twitter, etc and it's possible that a Google search could bring up my name or that colleagues could find out (when I did have a temp job, I did make it a point to NOT friend anyone from work on Facebook just in case someone did find out my views) but one cannot keep up their guard forever.

Do you think that if you are a conservative traditional marriage supporter who doesn't keep their views in the closet that you'd be better suited being self-employed than working for someone else?

BTW, just in case you're wondering, I DO NOT plan to change my views just to make myself more "hireable" if it really would make the difference, as morality trumps culture and popularity. (I thought that I'd point this out so that posts like "Just don't say anything" or stuff like that don't apply to me. I know what COULD happen and I'm wondering how likely it will be to happen.)

BTW, I'm not posting stuff that bashes gay/trans people, just stuff that posts my disapproval of the lifestyle.
If expressing your views on FB is such a high priority--you are willing to let the world know what you think, but are afraid you won't get hired?

Guess you have to decide what is more important to you--telling the world what your personal opinions are or your job. Your choice.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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Wrong. I'm on an online wikia where I'm an admin and two of my co-admins are bi. Also, in college, I had a guy in our hall who was gay. In all three cases, we got along fine.
I see. Your response tells me all I need to know about where you are in life.

As you gain life experience, your views will change. Mark my words.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Marquette, Mich
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I worked somewhere once where we had an employee who was strictly anti-trans, would talk openly about how she would call a trans person "it." I had to tell her there was a trans person on our staff who was deeply offended by her talk. She honestly didn't know. Awkward! I left shortly afterward, but both still work there. I can't imagine having to work with someone who denies my right to be who I am.



If you truly don't care what others do, then just work. Why does it matter? If it does really bother you, you're going to have to accept whatever consequences come your way.
 
Old 08-10-2018, 11:38 AM
 
Location: SoCal again
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Why don't you just live a normal life and ignore LGTB exists? Why do you care what they do and why do you need to tell everyone about it? Why do you fill your personal life with something you do not even like?


If you choose not to talk crap about people who have nothing to do with you, who don't cause you any harm, will not cost you any tax money, don't you live a much peacefuller and happier life?


LGTB does not affect you. You are acting like "gayness" is contageous. Why do you waste your precious life trying to cause people you don't even know problems? Don't you have any hobbies that bring you joy instead of hatred?


This doesn't make any sense to me. I do not like snails. But I won't spend all my free time hating on them and writing about them. What a miserable life this is??


I am not gay and I don't have any gay friends currently. LGBT is out of my mind for the most. You could completely ignore their existence, why don't you just do that instead of occupying your mind with them and obsessing over it?
 
Old 08-10-2018, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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as morality trumps culture and popularity.
Gay marriage has NOTHING to do with "culture and popularity." There is no "gay life style" any other than there is a heterosexual lifestyle.

And I would think that you conservatives would be applauding the fact that gays want to get married. There is a lot more to a life partnership than what happens in the bedroom. I don't know why you all can't seem to get past that.
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