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Of course they are! Good lord how 'white' do you have to be exactly to actually be, you know, white!! lol. Quick question here........I have a Spanish side to my family am I to consider them.........white!?
This guy created a comedy character based on this ridiculous 'new' notion about not being white.
Let me get this clear...in your view, indigenous Central and South Americans are white. OK! If that's what you believe, then sure, all Hispanic Americans--and you know, of course, that Hispanic in this context does not mean "people from Spain"--are white. Maybe native Southeast Asians are white too, and native Central Africans are white. Everyone is white.
I agree it is a little strange that the people Americans consider Hispanic or Latino are mostly of indigenous American descent.
It is, but that is because the terms Hispanic and Latino are being used to refer not to country of origin (though many of these people are mixed with Spaniards and other Europeans), but to the common language of Spanish.
Am I "white" if I'm white but was born in Argentina? (South america)
Yes. My mother-in-law was born in Brazil. She's light-skinned, blonde and blue-eyed. She's white. My next-door neighbors are of Italian descent but born in Argentina. They're white, too. Being born in South American doesn't make you "non-white," and being born in a barn doesn't make you a horse.
I agree it is a little strange that the people Americans consider Hispanic or latino are mostly of indigenous American descent.
Hispanic and Latino are used interchangeably to refer to people coming from countries located south of the US. It doesn't really matter whether they actually share these traits. It appears to be mostly motivated by sample bias. Many coming to the US are either indigenous or mestizo.
Let me get this clear...in your view, indigenous Central and South Americans are white. OK! If that's what you believe, then sure, all Hispanic Americans--and you know, of course, that Hispanic in this context does not mean "people from Spain"--are white. Maybe native Southeast Asians are white too, and native Central Africans are white. Everyone is white.
I don't think I mentioned Asians or Africans???? The fact of the matter is people in the US class some white people as 'non-white' UNLIKE the rest of the planet, Hispanic is a completely made up race, 'made-up' in the US. Can anybody help me with the name of that bloody film so that we can all go look and see what I mean?
Let me get this clear...in your view, indigenous Central and South Americans are white. OK! If that's what you believe, then sure, all Hispanic Americans--and you know, of course, that Hispanic in this context does not mean "people from Spain"--are white. Maybe native Southeast Asians are white too, and native Central Africans are white. Everyone is white.
By the way can you see how Sasha Baron Cohan ridiculed this with his Ali G. character? That was the 'main' comedic 'trait' - or as Ali G. would say himself 'is it cos I is black'.
The fact of the matter is people in the US class some white people as 'non-white' UNLIKE the rest of the planet, Hispanic is a completely made up race, 'made-up' in the US. Can anybody help me with the name of that bloody film so that we can all go look and see what I mean?
Your first mistake is stating that "people in the US do this." That is going to put people's backs up, because a small percentage of people who do a certain thing do not speak for all 325+ million Americans. And when it's merely a character in a film who is causing you to form your opinion, it just sounds silly. No one cares what film it was.
"Hispanic" is a cultural, not racial, term. It is often not directly contrasted with white, black, Asian etc. Go look up, for example, demographic data from my county, Orange County, California, which has a huge Hispanic population. You may see data similar to this:
White alone...71%
Hispanic/Latino...34%
White alone, not Hispanic/Latino...40%
Mixed race (2 or more races)...3%
Black...
Asian...
Native American...
.
.
The data is complex because reality is complex. From these numbers you can deduce that 31% of people in Orange County classified as "white" are also Hispanic. Also, 3% of Hispanic people are not white (they are black, Asian, etc.). There is clearly no "Hispanic/Latino" race being defined here.
A complicating factor is that the majority of Hispanic/Latino people in the US are actually mixed race, what is called mestizo--a mixture of European and indigenous Central and South American. Everyone knows this, but for a variety of reasons, unless they are unmistakably black or Asian, they are often--not always--officially included in the white category rather than the mixed race category. That is the crux of the conversation.
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