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Old 11-24-2013, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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El Parian de Filipinas en Mexico



one of the silk that was brought from Manila to Acapulco to Spain is the 'Manton de Manila'
It is a Chinese silk but they named it 'Manton de Manila', because it has associated to the port of Manila.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_shawl


^They usually used this in Flamenco dance

Mariachi Mexico by Pepe de Villa - Manton de Manila


China Poblana from Mexican outfit is also one via Manila to Mexico


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Poblana

Last edited by pinai; 11-24-2013 at 01:58 AM..

 
Old 11-24-2013, 02:03 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Mexican Paso Doble


Filipino Paso Doble


^Our Paso Doble is different though, it's more on courtship dance.
 
Old 11-24-2013, 03:03 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Filipina in Mexico

seems Mexican are also close to their grandparents & family oriented

Quote:
Definite yes about the similarities of both cultures, it's astounding! Especially the language as well
^She replied to 1 Mexican-American about Philippines and Mexico's culture

Anyways, if you've been in Filipino fiesta you'll see
people dance in the plazas playing some ballroom songs like the tune of tango & Cha-Cha
and this is still exist. Specially, Town/Barrio Fiestas.

Last edited by pinai; 11-24-2013 at 04:13 AM..
 
Old 11-24-2013, 07:40 AM
 
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Mexicana in Philippines


^She talks about how similar it is also when she gets in the Philippines
 
Old 11-25-2013, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Another similarities, Mexican also celebrate harvest festivities such as 'Maiz Festival'
so as the Filipinos such as 'Bangus (milkfish) Festival', 'Garlic', 'Tobacco', 'Flowers', 'grains' etc.

Mexican 'Festival del Maiz'


Filipino 'Pinili Garlic Festival'


http://www.academia.edu/3432351/Fili...mporary_Mexico

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Old 11-25-2013, 06:09 AM
 
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Philippines - Panuluyan







Mexico - Las Posadas

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Old 11-26-2013, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Mexico y Filipinas : Identidad Compartida (Shared Identity)

April 2013 - Inauguration
 
Old 11-28-2013, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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hmmmm thinking if this is Mexican influence? Aminudo/Amenudo Dance (Waray-Waray)



^throwing money in the center of the dance floor



They call this dance Aminudo nga Pinayungan or Amenudo nga Pinayungan


^similar to Kuratsa




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The Kuratsa is highly favored by the Waray people of the Eastern Visayan region in the Philippines. Strictly speaking, The Kuratsa must be done the amenudo; that is, only one couple dances it at a time. the Kuratsa is however, very different in the manner of execution to the Mexican counterpart. Even the "basic" Kuratsa music is not based on Mexican or even Spanish melodies but just bolero-inspired lilting music. A very interesting dance caught up the eyes of the beholder
http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Kuratsa

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Old 11-29-2013, 03:08 AM
 
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Yes, the Philippines are distinctive for their similarities to Mexico (and Spain). It will be more similar to Mexico than any southeast Asian country and understandably so. In keeping with the topic, there is certainly a huge holdover influence from Spain, and through that, Mexico that exists. The Catholic church is one of those, but Catholicism as practiced these days has changed a huge amount in many countries.

The large similarities that come from two sources, the similar recent 20th century post-colonial patterns of development of the Philippines and other southeast Asian countries seems to ignored as well as the centuries long trade and cultural, linguistic and genetic similarities among the Philippines and other Malay countries seem to be ignored. There are a lot of similarities among different Malay cultures that people want to sideline because Spanish influence is understandably more welcome. Also, recognize the fact that neither Spain nor Mexico spent that many people over--the Manila galleon is on record to have sent their fleets from Spain once or twice a year and exclusively to certain ports of call. Drunken sailors can screw a lot, but there's only so much they can do.

The spiciness difference of foods in Indonesia and Malaysia as opposed to foods in the Philippines is a non-issue when it comes to Mexican cuisine. The constant rejoinder of the Philippines not having the spice of other southeast nations doesn't make sense in the context of how spicy it is, because Mexico does have a very spicy cuisine and different in spiciness from not just the Philippines but Spain and many other Latin American countries. It seems odd that one would post about how the Philippines is different because its cuisine isn't so spicy and therefore different from that of Indonesia and Malaysia but then to try to connect that to Mexico where food is actually very spicy (and differently so from the Philippines as well as other southeast asian countries). Meanwhile, there are a lot of incredibly great dishes of Filipino culture that have close analogues with those of other southeast asian cuisines--it's really not that close to what you have in Mexico.

The actual genetic influence of Spaniards or Mexicans into the Philippines is incredibly minimal. This has been born out in multiple genetic studies. It would certainly be pretty awesome, in my eyes, if the Philippines had a much more heterogenous mix of people and a huge mixed population because honestly I find mixed asian/caucasian people pretty attractive. However, this is obviously not the case from just traveling around the country. However, that mix is A LOT LESS prevalent on the ground level than in the media in the Philippines. Is it possibly damaging overall to some abstract collective psyche of the Philippines that desperately wants to push this idea despite how the genetic mix is actually born out? Probably, and in multiple ways. If you care enough, do your part and make sure that you have kids only through mixed DNA either through outmarriage to people of European descent or artificially inseminating yourself with European sperm or implanting European eggs in your womb. I, personally, have no qualms about it and think it would make for a wonderfully idiosyncratic country.

The linguistic similarity of the various languages of the Philippines is so much closer to other Malayo-Polynesian languages that it's ridiculous to try to argue greater similarities to Spanish.

None of this means that there aren't a lot of similarities between the Philippines and Mexico. There are many and it is both underplayed and overplayed depending on the person who is observing these.

Mexican telenovelas are a ridiculous gauge of things as closeness relative to other things. It's an incredible money-making industry that Mexico has excelled at. It's one of their primary cultural exports whether it is to China, Russia, the Philippines, or elsewhere. Mexico has created an incredibly lucrative industry and they put it everywhere they can.

Again, this doesn't mean that Philippines and Mexico do not share a lot of similarities--they do. But again, it does get both under and overplayed depending on what your personal biases are on the matter.

Personal affronts to the idea that I'm "Chinese" doesn't do much to invalidate things I say since I'm not actually Chinese and am probably genetically closer to Filipinos overall being mostly Taiwanese aboriginal (supposed motherland to other Malay cultures) and even without that, it seems odd to assume a bias in interpretation of what I've experienced and what I've read on just those grounds. I really like the Philippines personally--Manila was a craphole that needs serious fixing, but the rest of the country was great. However, I was weirded out by the huge emphasis on being white or white-ish there which seemed immaterial to the fact that the vast, vast, VAST majority of the rest of the country didn't fall under that spectrum and were mostly ignored. That is incredibly screwed up.

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Old 11-29-2013, 03:28 AM
 
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Tagalog absorbed 5000 Spanish words while only 3,500 Malay words.

Cultural festivities are one of the biggest similarities between Philippines and Mexico that are not found in the rest of Asia.


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