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Tagalog absorbed 5000 Spanish words while only 3,500 Malay words.
Cultural festivities are one of the biggest similarities between Philippines and Mexico that are not found in the rest of Asia.
Arts and Literature
Old Filipino Music
Dance
Temperament
Yes, and the most basic and common words are often of Austronesian stock (not necessarily Malay) and the entire grammatical and sentence structure and how things are modified are the way things are modified in Austronesian languages--why? Because Tagalog is an Austronesian language. Most languages of the world now consist of huge body of loanwords. What doesn't change is the basic underpinning of those languages. I don't understand what about this seems to be offensive.
Mexican and Filipino Wedding Rituals --- Hispanic Wedding Rituals
Las Arras
Las arras, or Las arras matrimoniales (English: arrhae, wedding tokens, or unity coins[1]) are wedding paraphernalia used in Christian wedding ceremonies in Spain, Latin Americancountries, and the Philippines. The tradition is also followed, with varying names and customs, in countries and communities bearing degrees of Hispanic influence.[2] Traditionally, in Spain and Latin America, it is made up of thirteen gold coins[1][3] and a "madrina de arras" (an ornate box or chest) in which they are placed; in the Philippines, it is in an ornate basket or pouch.[1][3] After being blessed by a priest, they are given or presented by the groom to the bride.
Well speaking of wedding, We also celebrate the 'Despedida de Soltera' or in English version 'Bachelorette Party', but ours is more wholesome unlike the traditional way of Bachelorette party. It's more on family, casual dinner or party around neighborhood or close friends.
Yes, and the most basic and common words are often of Austronesian stock (not necessarily Malay) and the entire grammatical and sentence structure and how things are modified are the way things are modified in Austronesian languages--why? Because Tagalog is an Austronesian language. Most languages of the world now consist of huge body of loanwords. What doesn't change is the basic underpinning of those languages. I don't understand what about this seems to be offensive.
Yes, the Philippines are distinctive for their similarities to Mexico (and Spain). It will be more similar to Mexico than any southeast Asian country and understandably so. In keeping with the topic, there is certainly a huge holdover influence from Spain, and through that, Mexico that exists. The Catholic church is one of those, but Catholicism as practiced these days has changed a huge amount in many countries.
The large similarities that come from two sources, the similar recent 20th century post-colonial patterns of development of the Philippines and other southeast Asian countries seems to ignored as well as the centuries long trade and cultural, linguistic and genetic similarities among the Philippines and other Malay countries seem to be ignored. There are a lot of similarities among different Malay cultures that people want to sideline because Spanish influence is understandably more welcome. Also, recognize the fact that neither Spain nor Mexico spent that many people over--the Manila galleon is on record to have sent their fleets from Spain once or twice a year and exclusively to certain ports of call. Drunken sailors can screw a lot, but there's only so much they can do.
The spiciness difference of foods in Indonesia and Malaysia as opposed to foods in the Philippines is a non-issue when it comes to Mexican cuisine. The constant rejoinder of the Philippines not having the spice of other southeast nations doesn't make sense in the context of how spicy it is, because Mexico does have a very spicy cuisine and different in spiciness from not just the Philippines but Spain and many other Latin American countries. It seems odd that one would post about how the Philippines is different because its cuisine isn't so spicy and therefore different from that of Indonesia and Malaysia but then to try to connect that to Mexico where food is actually very spicy (and differently so from the Philippines as well as other southeast asian countries). Meanwhile, there are a lot of incredibly great dishes of Filipino culture that have close analogues with those of other southeast asian cuisines--it's really not that close to what you have in Mexico.
The actual genetic influence of Spaniards or Mexicans into the Philippines is incredibly minimal. This has been born out in multiple genetic studies. It would certainly be pretty awesome, in my eyes, if the Philippines had a much more heterogenous mix of people and a huge mixed population because honestly I find mixed asian/caucasian people pretty attractive. However, this is obviously not the case from just traveling around the country. However, that mix is A LOT LESS prevalent on the ground level than in the media in the Philippines. Is it possibly damaging overall to some abstract collective psyche of the Philippines that desperately wants to push this idea despite how the genetic mix is actually born out? Probably, and in multiple ways. If you care enough, do your part and make sure that you have kids only through mixed DNA either through outmarriage to people of European descent or artificially inseminating yourself with European sperm or implanting European eggs in your womb. I, personally, have no qualms about it and think it would make for a wonderfully idiosyncratic country.
The linguistic similarity of the various languages of the Philippines is so much closer to other Malayo-Polynesian languages that it's ridiculous to try to argue greater similarities to Spanish.
None of this means that there aren't a lot of similarities between the Philippines and Mexico. There are many and it is both underplayed and overplayed depending on the person who is observing these.
Mexican telenovelas are a ridiculous gauge of things as closeness relative to other things. It's an incredible money-making industry that Mexico has excelled at. It's one of their primary cultural exports whether it is to China, Russia, the Philippines, or elsewhere. Mexico has created an incredibly lucrative industry and they put it everywhere they can.
Again, this doesn't mean that Philippines and Mexico do not share a lot of similarities--they do. But again, it does get both under and overplayed depending on what your personal biases are on the matter.
Personal affronts to the idea that I'm "Chinese" doesn't do much to invalidate things I say since I'm not actually Chinese and am probably genetically closer to Filipinos overall being mostly Taiwanese aboriginal (supposed motherland to other Malay cultures) and even without that, it seems odd to assume a bias in interpretation of what I've experienced and what I've read on just those grounds. I really like the Philippines personally--Manila was a craphole that needs serious fixing, but the rest of the country was great. However, I was weirded out by the huge emphasis on being white or white-ish there which seemed immaterial to the fact that the vast, vast, VAST majority of the rest of the country didn't fall under that spectrum and were mostly ignored. That is incredibly screwed up.
As what one poster said " What is somewhat remarkable is two countries in oppositehemispheres being so similar.[/quote]
I know there are some words that are the same, even when I went to Malaysia I spotted some words that are the same but I still believe that most of the things that we use on a daily basis are Spanish like :
Cubiertos
tenedor
Cuchara
Cuchillo
Plato
Platito
Baso
Pantalon
Medias
Cinturon
Zapatos
Cama
Cuarto
Bano
Puerta
Toalla
Cepillo
Pan de Sal
Pan de leche
Cape/Cafe
Mesa
Silla
Tocador
Basically, anything that the Spanish brought over that Filipinos didnt already have became Spanish loanwords to Filipino languages. All of the basic stuff that Filipinos already had retained the native names. There are some exceptions of course
When we were talking about the similarities, we were not really talking about looks. Why does it have to go down to looks ? We were talking about how similar they are in terms of culture, traditions, ways, beliefs.
Why does it always have to lead to physical appearance ? And it always leads to Filipinos didn't have so much genetic influence because most of the people still look Malay. Of course, there were more Spanish who went to Mexico so there are more who became mestizo. Can we dig furthere and just not talk about looks and focus on the similar culture ? Because it is indeed remarkable how similar they are though they are in opposite sides of the world.
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