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Oh, so basically enslaving populations was an act of kindness. Now I can see why so many christians supported actual slavery. It was their gift to mankind.
Phet, you are once again recycling old talking points. Men in the past were barbaric and acted in a very different manner than today. We cannot judge the past with today's standards.
pres·ent·ism
/ˈprezenˌtizəm/
noun
uncritical adherence to present-day attitudes, especially the tendency to interpret past events in terms of modern values and concepts.
If you’re talking about me, we belong to a Conservative Synagogue but mostly use it as childcare at this point, and the membership costs are fully absorbed into daycare fees. I haven’t been to an actual Jewish service in years. I anticipate going (somewhat) more frequently when my children are older.
Not sure what the comment that “people pay cash to go” is about, but we have membership fees because that seems to make a lot more sense than passing around the collection plate at services or otherwise hounding people for tithing. Fees are usually tiered based on age and household size.
When it comes to “hounding,” I don’t think TroutDude is targeting me. My connection to Judaism is based on culture, community, and ethnic identity. Jewish atheism is a long and storied tradition, and I’m open about my beliefs. I’m certainly not a closet case who attacks atheism in a feeble ploy to blend in with true believers. As for you, if the shoe fits...
I've always been a little puzzled by this "connection to Judaism based on culture, community and ethnic identity." I suppose I have a similar connection to Catholicism because my ethnic identity is Italian and I was raised a Catholic. A Catholic mother and so on, but I don't have anything to do with the Catholic church.
We're both atheists, but I'm not too sure I understand how or why Jewish atheists always seem to claim a similar "connection to Judaism" like you do.
india was a secular region before colonization and it still is and has always been. stop the BS. many immigrants are arriving from other majority christian nations such as from ireland, italy, mexico and rest of south america. why are they fleeing christianity?
Good point, but they go from a majority Christian to another majority Christian nation. They don't go to a non Christian nation. The only exception is Japan and as you know they only want pure Japanese. They don't even like Koreans.
Phet, you are once again recycling old talking points. Men in the past were barbaric and acted in a very different manner than today. We cannot judge the past with today's standards.
pres·ent·ism
/ˈprezenˌtizəm/
noun
uncritical adherence to present-day attitudes, especially the tendency to interpret past events in terms of modern values and concepts.
Yes, of course, because everything you post is new and groundbreaking.
You are recycling old phrases. Those countries would still be poor if never colonized. The Western nations are full of immigrants form the former colonies. Many were granted that privilege and the last thing these people want to do is to go back home. Why do you think Muslim prefer cultures based on Judeo-Christian values? Why was that Muslim family attending your Western school Virginia? Why would a Muslim want to live in a majority Christian nation? Think about it. Christian nations tend to be more inclusive and accept diversity.
There are many reasons people emigrate to America (like my parents did), having nothing to do with religion. Of course there are many people who emigrate to other countries too. Mostly, however, most people don't emigrate from the country they were born in. For every one Muslim who emigrated to a non-Muslim country, there are thousands who prefer to stay in a Muslim country.
So if we're going to "think about it," what does this thinking do for us?
I've always been a little puzzled by this "connection to Judaism based on culture, community and ethnic identity." I suppose I have a similar connection to Catholicism because my ethnic identity is Italian and I was raised a Catholic. A Catholic mother and so on, but I don't have anything to do with the Catholic church.
We're both atheists, but I'm not too sure I understand how or why Jewish atheists always seem to claim a similar "connection to Judaism" like you do.
Jewish is a unique ethnicity; they lead the world in Nobel prices. There is such a thing as an Irish Catholic, Italian Catholic, or Polish Catholic, however it is not the same. There is also a Protestant identity called WASP, but very un-PC these days.
Jewish is a unique ethnicity; they lead the world in Nobel prices. There is such a thing as an Irish Catholic, Italian Catholic, or Polish Catholic, however it is not the same. There is also a Protestant identity called WASP, but very un-PC these days.
I was referring to the "connection to Judaism." Judaism is not the same as being Jewish.
I assume you mean "Nobel prizes" as well. Always that and never any mention of the more infamous accomplishments like the most epic securities swindle known to man. Funny how this always works...
Yes, of course, because everything you post is new and groundbreaking.
I think you knew that, but you still like to recycle old talking points.
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