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Old 04-23-2021, 02:39 PM
 
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Are you Indian, or from another ethnic background that predominantly professes Hinduism? If so, you would have that to “fall back on.” Aside from being American, I’m just an Ashkenazi Jew.
What do you mean fall back on?
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Old 04-23-2021, 02:46 PM
 
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The end result is that women have the most freedom in nations that are based on Judeo Christian values.
There are many countries, such as Croatia, and states in the US, where women are losing their right to abortion because of christian values. Women are not safe in any religion.
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Old 04-23-2021, 02:55 PM
 
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There are many countries, such as Croatia, and states in the US, where women are losing their right to abortion because of christian values. Women are not safe in any religion.
Probably from a male perspective that doesn't count
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Old 04-23-2021, 03:32 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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What do you mean fall back on?
I mean, if you weren’t a practicing Hindu, you wouldn’t “need” to be a cultural Hindu, since you find that concept distasteful, because Hinduism isn’t an ethnic religion—whether you’re Indian, or from another group that has predominantly adopted Hinduism, or are from some other background but gravitated toward Hinduism separate and apart from your background.

If you are born a Jew to two ethnically Jewish parents, you remain a Jew, short of actively converting to another religion (and even then, most of the world, including many Jews, will continue to see you as a Jew).

That’s not so say I feel resigned to my identity. I take great pride in who I am and where I come from. But I’m aware that even if I were one of those self-loathing types, it wouldn’t make a lick of difference to how everyone else would see me.
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Old 04-23-2021, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I think you just jumped the shark, mensa. There certainly are and the differences between cultures operating under them and those operating under other value systems are stark. Your focus on whether or not the Judeo-Christian system is the origin or exclusive source of the values is irrelevant. The societies currently operating under them are preferable.
In other words, the best of the not very good.
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Old 04-23-2021, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There are many countries, such as Croatia, and states in the US, where women are losing their right to abortion because of christian values. Women are not safe in any religion.
Perhaps those that are taking away that privilege prayed over it.
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Old 04-23-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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Christianity was the first religion that advocated peace, turn the other cheek, charity, humility, and the ascetic lifestyle.

This is not true. Hinduism came before Christianity and advocated peace long before the Bible.

https://eternalreligion.org/why-are-hindus-so-peaceful/

Have you heard of a Hindu mass shooter? NEVER.

Have you heard of Hindus hijacking planes in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus blowing them selves up in a market and killing many innocent in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus in the American military or any military killing their fellow men in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus flying aeroplanes into buildings and killing the innocent in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus blowing up buses in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus beheading people in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus taking women captive and making them into sex slaves in the name of Krishna? NEVER

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Old 04-23-2021, 04:35 PM
 
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I think you just jumped the shark, mensa. There certainly are and the differences between cultures operating under them and those operating under other value systems are stark. Your focus on whether or not the Judeo-Christian system is the origin or exclusive source of the values is irrelevant. The societies currently operating under them are preferable.
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I challenge any of you to find anything in Judeo-Christian values that is there uniquely and wasn't borrowed from other, previously existing societies.

Note: I'm in no way saying there is anything wrong in what Christianity teaches. All I'm saying is that it is not original or unique.
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Old 04-23-2021, 04:57 PM
 
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I challenge any of you to find anything in Judeo-Christian values that is there uniquely and wasn't borrowed from other, previously existing societies.

Note: I'm in no way saying there is anything wrong in what Christianity teaches. All I'm saying is that it is not original or unique.
All the great classical composers borrowed from others to create their masterpieces. Nothing happens in a vacuum

The Judeo-Christian values may not have been 100% original but they were taken to greater heights by Christian culture. IN fact the enlightenment grows out of the Christian culture. Of all current civilization on Earth this is the best one we ever had despite all the atrocities of the past. There has never been a better time in world history.
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Old 04-23-2021, 04:58 PM
 
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This is not true. Hinduism came before Christianity and advocated peace long before the Bible.

https://eternalreligion.org/why-are-hindus-so-peaceful/

Have you heard of a Hindu mass shooter? NEVER.

Have you heard of Hindus hijacking planes in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus blowing them selves up in a market and killing many innocent in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus in the American military or any military killing their fellow men in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus flying aeroplanes into buildings and killing the innocent in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus blowing up buses in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus beheading people in the name of Krishna? NEVER

Have you heard of Hindus taking women captive and making them into sex slaves in the name of Krishna? NEVER
See my post above.
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