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Old 11-09-2013, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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It may also be that the trucking and train industries don't want the additional demand on diesel further increasing their fuel prices.
Why would that increase diesel prices? It's all derived from oil, just different refinery processes. The industry would adjust. The raw commodity is still oil.
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Old 11-09-2013, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
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Why would that increase diesel prices? It's all derived from oil, just different refinery processes. The industry would adjust. The raw commodity is still oil.
Because additional demand on the same amount of supply increases scarcity and therefore prices. The industry takes a while to adjust, it takes years to increase refining capacity. And no one is about to approve new refinery construction right now. What, do you think it's just a matter of passing an Affordable Diesel Act?

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Old 11-09-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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Politics. Politics and money. Germans openly admit that they can not sell quality engines here due to politics. Read an article on this in Pop Mech not so long ago.
Plus, you are not really supporting our economy, are you?
The ford explorer engine is made in Germany, the transmission in France......
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Every time you try to certify a chassis/motor combo in the USA, it costs several hundred million dollars. There are only so many engine options that car companies are willing to spend that kind of money to have certified.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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EPA and DOT are a hassle in the USA.....more cars to certify means more money for R+D.....so offer less options, make more money!
^^this^^ certifying cars in the US on the EPA driving cycle is very expensive. and regardless of the fact that perhaps the same engine is used in a variety of cars, each car has to be certified with each engine and transmission combination that will be offered in the car. i europe its much cheaper to certify cars for road use, rather like the 70s in the US.
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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The EPA are ran by imbeciles. Simple. Incompetent baboons.
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Old 11-10-2013, 12:56 AM
 
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The EPA are ran by imbeciles. Simple. Incompetent baboons.
No, it's run by extremist environmental activist.
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Old 11-10-2013, 01:28 AM
 
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No, it's run by extremist environmental activist.
in other words, imbeciles and incompetent baboons.
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Old 11-10-2013, 01:36 AM
 
Location: SW France
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I think that this is the article that was referred to earlier in the thread, which I will also read;

Diesel Cars in Europe vs. America - Why Diesel Vehicles Are Expensive in US - Popular Mechanics
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Old 11-10-2013, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Any guesses on my opinion of the epa? lol
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