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Old 07-18-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Originally Posted by Katana49 View Post
Relaying his experiences with the brand is not whining, especially as it's a well known issue now.

Took GM to court over dropped valve, and.... - Corvette Forum

You obviously have no idea the lengths GM will go to avoid taking responsibility for their own flawed products.

Court: Ignition-switch lawsuits against GM can proceed

Okay, well known issue. He should have gone to arbitration. I wasn't there to witness it, nor did I tear his engine down so all I have is his story. The internet is full of stories.


I expect a car company will do what it can to avoid paying warranty claims. I know that going in and I don't expect any of them to hold my hand if something goes wrong. If I modify a car I know I'm giving them a reason not to pay out. They are just like insurance companies. You pay them a bunch of money and as soon as a claim comes up they look for a reason to not pay you and you have to wait until you see any money.


When you buy a car you shouldn't think that it is perfect and nothing will ever go wrong. It is a man-made product. The warranty is there as insurance. You can't go fooling around with mods and expect that insurance to still be in play, even if it is their fault that it is poor craftsmanship, bad parts or whatever. You may get lucky and it all works out, but a lot of times it doesn't. It is just that simple. Having mods mucks up the process.


Not too many guys run to the internet when they get a claim for something they shouldn't, or the dealer didn't notice they flashed their car back to stock and they put all the factory parts back on before bringing it in.


Oh wait...none of them do.

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Old 07-18-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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Okay, well known issue. He should have gone to arbitration. I wasn't there to witness it, nor did I tear his engine down so all I have is his story. The internet is full of stories.


I expect a car company will do what it can to avoid paying warranty claims. I know that going in and I don't expect any of them to hold my hand if something goes wrong. If I modify a car I know I'm giving them a reason not to pay out. They are just like insurance companies. You pay them a bunch of money and as soon as a claim comes up they look for a reason to not pay you and you have to wait until you see any money.
So if you didn't know anything about this then why not just keep your mouth shut instead of giving him a hard time about it? GM screws over their customers wherever they can.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA
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Typical for someone trying to big boy on the internet. Your opinion is not a fact. I don't care who you are or what you do.
As someone who has driven all three, this "big boy" can speak of the subject based upon experience.

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Those are used cars. Comparing used pricing to new is dumb. You can get a used Vette too.
You've selectively forgotten the premise to our conversation, and now you're decrying 1-3 year old examples as unworthy competitors? As expected, your ploy of attrition continues to narrow. I fully expect your next response to argue about how this conversation should be based on even more finite parameters.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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So if you didn't know anything about this then why not just keep your mouth shut instead of giving him a hard time about it? GM screws over their customers wherever they can.

I know all I need to know. He had a modified car and his claim got denied. Him getting screwed over or you thinking you can keep me from talking about it means nothing to me. Like I said, people screw over dealers and car companies all the time when they flash their cars back and replace mods with stock parts before bringing them in to service.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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As someone who has driven all three, this "big boy" can speak of the subject based upon experience.

But you have no empirical data to support it. All you want to talk about is subjective qualities of each vehicle. I don't care about that. I understand that is important to you and you can talk about it all you want, but you keep responding to me for some reason.

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You've selectively forgotten the premise to our conversation, and now you're decrying 1-3 year old examples as unworthy competitors? As expected, your ploy of attrition continues to narrow. I fully expect your next response to argue about how this conversation should be based on even more finite parameters.
Well there's your problem, you think we were having a conversation and that there is a premise to it. No. You jumped in the middle of a response I made to another poster and took it in a different direction. I don't care about your premise. I don't care about used car pricing. I don't care how they feel to you.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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Who cares what people think of your car? Lame.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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I know all I need to know. He had a modified car and his claim got denied. Him getting screwed over or you thinking you can keep me from talking about it means nothing to me.
Ah... I get it. You're not one of those people with a firm grasp of common sense, to know that talking about things you have no clue about just makes you look foolish.

For the record, a "grown man" (your words) can admit when he's wrong. Looks like you've still got a lot of growing to do.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Shady Drifter
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But you have no empirical data to support it. All you want to talk about is subjective qualities of each vehicle. I don't care about that. I understand that is important to you and you can talk about it all you want, but you keep responding to me for some reason.

The entire thread is about subjective opinions - even the thread title references subjective opinions. I think the only absolute fact in the entire thread is that Corvettes are vastly inferior cars.
 
Old 07-18-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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The entire thread is about subjective opinions - even the thread title references subjective opinions. I think the only absolute fact in the entire thread is that Corvettes are vastly inferior cars.
Says the guy who drives a 3 Series. Pot Kettle Black
 
Old 07-18-2016, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Ah... I get it. You're not one of those people with a firm grasp of common sense, to know that talking about things you have no clue about just makes you look foolish.

For the record, a "grown man" (your words) can admit when he's wrong. Looks like you've still got a lot of growing to do.
No, I'm still satisfied that I'm right. But thanks though.
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