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Old 03-28-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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I told you at the time, pictures of debris in the water is "evidence" of nothing more than there is debris in the water. There is no evidence that it is from a plane, much less this plane. And now search authorities won't even label it as "debris" and have moved the search area by 680 miles.


Young said Australian authorities had concluded a series of satellite images taken over the old search zone showing objects floating in the ocean did not show aircraft wreckage.
"In regards to the old areas, we have not seen any debris," he said, adding that he would not classify anything satellites or planes have spotted as debris. "That's just not justifiable from what we have seen."

New objects sighted as Flight 370 search shifts dramatically - CNN.com
Doesn't matter what you told me.

I used the word "seems". I did not say they actually discovered the plane. No one on this thread, including you and including me really know where the plane is or why it happened that it is missing. Perhaps you have a crystal ball, I don't.

We all have opinions here, nothing more and all are as valid to post as any other.
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Old 03-28-2014, 01:03 PM
 
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I do think it has something to do with the winter coming and they knew they would never get much more decent searches in, no less find the plane at the bottom of the ocean. They don't want to lose any search team members and I think alot has to do with $$$. So, it's better for them to move the site someplace with "less" weather and closer to land to they can make more searches and still keep the families calmed down. They were probably getting close to the point where they would have to call off all searches in the more southern area and that would have caused all heck to break out.

I know i'm being cynical and I'm truly hoping this spot is the one that will give up some sort of evidence. The pic I saw just looks like a rectangle (shipping container) just like some of the others did, although the photo is alot clearer.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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I for one believe the guys searching know what they are doing so if they think moving the search area is the right thing to do, how can I second guess that decision? I am sure they have access to information and analysts that know far more than the hacks hired by CNN. They are well aware that the whole world is watching them and I am sure want to solve it as much as anyone else.
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:59 PM
 
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I used the word "seems". I did not say they actually discovered the plane. No one on this thread, including you and including me really know where the plane is or why it happened that it is missing. Perhaps you have a crystal ball, I don't.
You also used the word "overwhelming" to describe the evidence that they had found the crash site. I don't see unidentified debris as evidence at all, much less overwhelming.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I for one believe the guys searching know what they are doing so if they think moving the search area is the right thing to do, how can I second guess that decision? I am sure they have access to information and analysts that know far more than the hacks hired by CNN. They are well aware that the whole world is watching them and I am sure want to solve it as much as anyone else.
NO! damit. all the experts needed are right here. put us in a command center with headphones and hot-lines and buzzers and we'll get things done!
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:09 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I'm dismayed to think that they told those families that they had found the debris. I'm surprised that the initial information from the British has proved to be false. I'm in awe to think that now the real debris is somewhere else.

I do think they're trying as hard as they can but with confusing evidence and not much to go on, horrible search conditions, and having to coordinate search efforts of many countries, this cannot be easy. I know this is not true but wouldn't it be wonderful if (big stretch of imagination here) someone found the plane intact or even wrecked but on land!
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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All we now know is that there is crud everywhere in the ocean...

But something still bothers me (and it may have been addressed above, although I don't remember seeing it): I thought some sort of sensor was supposed to go off if the plane hit the water more or less intact, and to my knowledge it never did. Pure circumstantial logic leads to the conclusion that the plane ended in the Indian Ocean, and it probably did--but has anyone explained the absence of that sensor signal? Or was that just another piece of nonsense thrown at the world media?
If it did go into the Indian Ocean, the black boxes could be up to 23,000 feet below the surface, so if they could pin point an approximate location where the aircraft might have gone down, ships and aircraft would have to be within a very close radius of the devices that generate beacon signals on the black boxes in order to know where to send a submersible vehicle to retrieve them.

Sean Hannity put it best the other day when he described trying to locate the aircraft and the black boxes, and I'm para-phrasing: "It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack, the only problem is, they can't find the haystack".
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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This is a bit of a frustrating story. We get these "leads" with no followup. BREAKING NEWS: 220 objects spotted, 130 objects spotted near the 220.

4 days later and no info on what these 300+ objects were. Only that they are moving the search area 600 odd miles because they found out the plane was going faster due to some math error. Whoopsie, spent a week almost searching the middle of the ocean for nothing!
With any objects that get spotted by satellites, authorities that are involved in the search won't actually know about them until hours later since many of the photographs will have to be processed and evaluated. Keep in mind also that with satellite's that are in constant orbit around the earth, won't be above the same point where objects were found until 24 hours later and by then, strong ocean currents will have shifted the debris away by hundreds of miles.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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I'm dismayed to think that they told those families that they had found the debris. I'm surprised that the initial information from the British has proved to be false. I'm in awe to think that now the real debris is somewhere else.

I do think they're trying as hard as they can but with confusing evidence and not much to go on, horrible search conditions, and having to coordinate search efforts of many countries, this cannot be easy. I know this is not true but wouldn't it be wonderful if (big stretch of imagination here) someone found the plane intact or even wrecked but on land!
In the beginning I think Malaysia was just trying to figure out what happened and they didn't want to reveal the plane had crossed back over their land. Since then they seem to be transparent and in finding the plane, working with other countries and try to solve this mystery. The earth is absolutely massive and it can't be easy.
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Old 03-28-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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All I know for sure is that the super duper anti-submarine spy planes we are using are not worth the billions of dollars sunk into them.
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