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Old 09-26-2023, 09:07 AM
 
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Most infrastructure is not sexy and glamorous so political leaders who are in the game for fame, glory and other superficial reasons turn a blind eye to it.

What I don't get is that infrastructure is perhaps the one thing that affects us all. Not everybody uses the schools.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Well no one's fixing it lol. And yes Boston is too crowded. Until it's fixed, if it's fixed we shouldn't be encouraging MORE people to live here...but here we are.
Well this is a hot take lol. There's quite a bit of money going into improving the T right now. They're fixing tracks, bridges, signals, stations etc. They're updating the actual vehicles on multiple lines (remember when the OL was the worst? Now it's arguably the best). It's going to take looooooong time to fix dacades of decay, there will probably be more setbacks, and there's a ton still to do, but it's flat out wrong to say "nobody's fixing it." For the first time I can remember, real money is being invested in actual maintenance.

What does the bold even mean? Should we tell local companies to stop hiring and move out of the region? Should we tell the schools to perform poorly so nobody wants to go to them? Same for the colleges? And how about the healthcare system - tell it to bump those mortality rates a bit higher? Why don't we spill some oil on the beaches too so that people will stay away from there. As long as MA is a good place to live and work, people will continue to move here. They don't need encouraging.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:10 AM
 
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What I don't get is that infrastructure is perhaps the one thing that affects us all. Not everybody uses the schools.
I don't get it either. I really appreciate a newly reconstructed road or a brand new bus but I also don't have the right personality to go into politics.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:12 AM
 
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I don't get it either. I really appreciate a newly reconstructed road or a brand new bus but I also don't have the right personality to go into politics.

Somebody just said that we have a lot of brains here, but it's like we have a particularly stupid kind of voter. There's very few other states where politicians can continuously perform this poorly with no repercussions. Even RI is looking better than us these days.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Most infrastructure is not sexy and glamorous so political leaders who are in the game for fame, glory and other superficial reasons turn a blind eye to it.
This is why we have decades of deferred maintenance. The projects that look good are the new trains that a politician can ride on and wave for the camera, or the new stations or extensions where they can pose with helmet and golden shovel at the groundbreaking. Replacing crumbling tracks or updating the signals doesn't generate the same photo ops. We need to update vehicles and stations too, but the MBTA heavily favored sexier projects like extensions and new vehicles for decades instead of working on keeping the tracks and tunnels up to date. And here we are.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:18 AM
 
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Somebody just said that we have a lot of brains here, but it's like we have a particularly stupid kind of voter. There's very few other states where politicians can continuously perform this poorly with no repercussions. Even RI is looking better than us these days.
I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Hopefully this whole identity politics façade is fazing out, and it kind of slowly seems to be trending that way.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:19 AM
 
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ltfox seems to have all the answers on this one.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:20 AM
 
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ltfox seems to have all the answers on this one.
you seem to have nothing good to add per usual
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:22 AM
 
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I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Hopefully this whole identity politics façade is fazing out, and it kind of slowly seems to be trending that way.

If you're stranded and can't get to work, it's hard to be impressed with bike lanes, talk about "social equity eco justice" and about how much one hates Trump. I thought we had gotten there already, but IDK.
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Old 09-26-2023, 09:25 AM
 
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you seem to have nothing good to add per usual
I did add something, lol. You just don't like what I had to say per usual
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