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Old 08-27-2020, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Sadly there is. It seems like it shouldn't be though. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic.../disorientated
Oh for heaven's sake! Who'd'a thunk it, eh? I learn something new here every day. Disorientated is a mangled up disorientating word. Sounds like word butchery to me. I think I'll stick to saying it my way.

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Old 08-28-2020, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The Southern accent is fading with younger generations due to movies. With the film industry in Hollywood, the standard American accent is becoming more and more like the Californian accent.
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I noticed this week that Nikki Haley, who grew up in South Carolina, doesn't have much of a Southern US accent.
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Old 08-28-2020, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I don't speak French, but I heard the Cajun accent of Louisiana French is actually quite similar to the French accent of the French New Brunswickers.
More like Acadians in Nova Scotia, I'd say.
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Old 08-28-2020, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Oh for heaven's sake! Who'd'a thunk it, eh? I learn something new here every day. Disorientated is a mangled up disorientating word. Sounds like word butchery to me. I think I'll stick to saying it my way.

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My guess is that disorientated probably originated before disoriented.
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Old 08-28-2020, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Like lieutenant, growing up it was " left-tenant".

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It definitely still is "lef-tenant".

Or it is for the only people in Canada who actually have a real reason to use the term: the Canadian Armed Forces.

Though yes, "loo-tenant" is quite common in everyday speech, when people are making references to U.S. TV shows and movies I suppose...
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Old 08-28-2020, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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My guess is that disorientated probably originated before disoriented.
We may never actually know, but the evidence we have is this.

"Both forms have been used by respected writers for centuries.

As Jeremy Butterfield explains in Fowler’s Dictionary of Modern English Usage (4th ed.), the two verbs that gave us those participial adjectives and past tenses “have a long history (disorient first recorded in 1655, disorientate in 1704) and both are still in use (corresponding to the noun disorientation).”

This article has some interesting bits.

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2...rientated.html
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:09 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Not that much. There are no international borders between Alabama and Seattle. Nor are there borders between England and Scotland.
Nor are there borders between Calgary and Newfoundland and you can tell which one someone is from. Even though they are quite Fort Macmurray is right next to Gander.
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:12 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Whereas in the U.S. in informal (and sometimes even formal) speech, college and university are used as synonyms.
Not exactly.In general universities have graduate schools and colleges don't. With Dartmouth College being a significant exception.
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Not exactly.In general universities have graduate schools and colleges don't. With Dartmouth College being a significant exception.
I assumed there was probably some type of nuance there, but wouldn't you agree that it's lost on most Americans, who generally use "college" and university" interchangeably? (Even if it's erroneous?)
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Old 09-01-2020, 03:23 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I assumed there was probably some type of nuance there, but wouldn't you agree that it's lost on most Americans, who generally use "college" and university" interchangeably? (Even if it's erroneous?)
I don't want to ignore you. I would have to think about that. My demographic, the Jews, rarely enters higher education or for that matter graduates high school.
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