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View Poll Results: Is Quebec Independence a Legitimate Movement?
Yes 147 65.04%
No 79 34.96%
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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For a lot of people, it seems like that was too much to accept.
A lot of people who evidently include mostly the francophone who felt the need to implement draconian language legislation in the form of Bill101 to force every one to speak French and have language police to make sure those laws were obeyed/enforced.
AJ do you ever get a little embarrassed that your francophone culture is so feeble that it needs language laws and police to maintain its existence?
As for your mentioning the big new English super hospital? i go there frequently,the staff are mostly francophone and English signage is rare,not sure whats English about it.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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A lot of people who evidently include mostly the francophone who felt the need to implement draconian language legislation in the form of Bill101 to force every one to speak French and have language police to make sure those laws were obeyed/enforced.
AJ do you ever get a little embarrassed that your francophone culture is so feeble that it needs language laws and police to maintain its existence?
As for your mentioning the big new English super hospital? i go there frequently,the staff are mostly francophone and English signage is rare,not sure whats English about it.
What's wrong with some of the staff being francophone if they can help you in English? The point of an anglophone superhospital is to have a hospital where you are guaranteed treatment, care and service in English 100% of the time.


It's not to have a hospital where everyone working there has to be anglophone.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:39 AM
 
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What's wrong with some of the staff being francophone if they can help you in English? The point of an anglophone superhospital is to have a hospital where you are guaranteed treatment, care and service in English 100% of the time.


It's not to have a hospital where everyone working there has to be anglophone.
Tell that to the patrons of this Gaspe hospital where not only English is illegal but so is Bilingualism.=
Quebec hospital ordered to take down bilingual signs | National Post

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Old 02-15-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Tell that to the patrons of this Gaspe hospital where not only English is illegal but so is Bilingualism.=
Quebec hospital ordered to take down bilingual signs | National Post

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And yet even in places where bilingual service is guaranteed by federal law and is the most basic common sense (the airport of the country's capital, duh!), it's still a problem getting service in French:


94,9 Rouge fm :: Unilinguisme à l'aéroport d'Ottawa : plainte déposée à l'Agence des services frontaliers :: Info Gatineau-Ottawa - Article


See where this discussion goes, jambo?
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Montreal
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Sorry to break this to you, but the whole world does not revolve around Jews.


The issue at the time in Quebec was not ethnic or religious. It was linguistic.


There were in the mid-1970s, compared to today, even a good number of anglophones in Quebec who were of French Canadian descent who somehow over time lost knowledge of French in their families. These people had an outmigration rate similar to other groups as well who did not want to live in a Quebec where the societal conditions that compelled one to learn decent French and use it from time to time was on the upswing.


Not that "not knowing French" and "not wanting to use French from time to time" are not unchangeable conditions like the colour of one's skin. But anyway...


Much of Quebec's anglophone population had hitherto been accustomed to living (linguisitically anyway) as they would in Oakville, Ontario or Cherry Hill, New Jersey. When the writing was on the wall that that would no longer be the case, a large number of them voted with their feet.


It's also worth mentioning that their entire publicly-funded institutional network was nonetheless protected including schools, colleges, universities, hospitals, etc.


McGill is still close to the top-ranked university in Canada in 2016 and the Quebec government has just built a 1 billion dollar anglophone public superhospital in Montreal for the anglo community.


What really changed for the community's members was the (partial) loss of the ability to compel everyone they encontered in their everyday lives from A to Z to switch languages (ie to English) just for them.


For a lot of people, it seems like that was too much to accept.
Fantastic post man. It's always fascinating how minority groups who you would think would understand Quebec's position are sometimes the most illogically hostile to us. It's also a little disconcerting for our neighbours when they have certain people are more concerned about their own petty racial diaspora than anything else.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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And yet even in places where bilingual service is guaranteed by federal law and is the most basic common sense (the airport of the country's capital, duh!), it's still a problem getting service in French:


94,9 Rouge fm :: Unilinguisme à l'aéroport d'Ottawa : plainte déposée à l'Agence des services frontaliers :: Info Gatineau-Ottawa - Article


See where this discussion goes, jambo?
Difference is in Quebec its mandated by law in Ottawa the language you speak is up to you.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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Difference is in Quebec its mandated by law in Ottawa the language you speak is up to you.
No. Francophones have a right to service in French at Ottawa airport and other airports as well. It's mandated by federal law.
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Old 02-15-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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I know well that rfrancophone culture is propped up by these ridiculous laws, presumably if the laws werent in place your francophone culture would cease to exist.
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Old 02-15-2016, 06:06 PM
 
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I know well that rfrancophone culture is propped up by these ridiculous laws, presumably if the laws werent in place your francophone culture would cease to exist.
Canadian federal bilingualism is a ridiculous law that props up francophone culture that wouldn't exist without it?
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:09 AM
 
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Canadian federal bilingualism is a ridiculous law that props up francophone culture that wouldn't exist without it?
Its your culture that seems to need all the language laws not mine You tell me why the need for bill101 and the OQLF.
Agreed on the futility of the federal bilingualism program , as it fails to take into consideration the fact that Canada isnt bilingual,the 7 million inhabitants of Quebec speak French the rest of Canadas 30 million living outside Quebec speak English, hardly what i'd call bilingual.

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