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Crime stats from government agencies are usually politically manipulated I find... If a crime is never reported or even registered, it never happened... So Canada having the 5th highest rape rate apparently to me says we are just the 5th most honest in the world about that stat...
As for "No Frontier Spirit" or "Lack of Individualism" you really should travel more in Canada... Its a big country and the provinces have more differences between them (in almost every which way) than US states... BC and the Prairie Provinces are much more "pioneer spirit" like than Ontario or Collectivist Quebec. The only constants in Canada from Coast to Coast are it snows absolutely everywhere at least once a year and in absolutely every town in Canada hockey is the big sport...
Canada currently has a lower unemployment rate (wonder how long that will last) and agree with you about the PBR! For a value beer, its damn good. I just wish we had free trade in between Canada and the US so I could bring some back with me without duty.
I've been to Canada about a dozen times, how many times do I have to go there before I can have an opinion about the nation?
I've been to Alberta (once), British Columbia (once), and Ontario (repeatedly).
Aside from nice snow-capped mountains in BC there wasn't much that interested me.
Canada is sort of like a Ned Flanders version of the United States. Everything is goody goody but you just know they yearn for the day when they can pronounce their judgement on you.
When dealing with lots of Canadians, I definitely get a sense that there is a strong hatred of America and conservative/individualist values, engrained deeply in Canadian culture and education. It is almost part of their mentality. My father often said that most Canadians would kill us if they had the chance.
When dealing with lots of Canadians, I definitely get a sense that there is a strong hatred of America and conservative/individualist values, engrained deeply in Canadian culture and education. It is almost part of their mentality. My father often said that most Canadians would kill us if they had the chance.
The underlined stuff is just a bit of an exaggeration I'd say. But certainly anti-American sentiment is quite present in Canada.
What really dominates sentiment about the U.S. in most of Canada is a strong feeling that Canadians have actually built "a better America". This is especially strong among English-speaking Canadians who are somewhat touchy about the so-called cultural "differences" (or lack thereof) that distinguish them from Americans. For example, they really hate being mistaken for Americans when travelling abroad.
There is anti-American sentiment in Quebec as well, but it's more of the "bourgeois socialist" left-leaning pacifist kind that you would find in many places in Europe. On this issue at least, French-speaking Canadians are more secure in their identity vis-à-vis the U.S. and don't feel a need to distinguish themselves by invoking stuff that is sometimes tinged with moral superiority like "we're more compassionate, more tolerant than you guys..." that you often hear in Anglo-Canada.
The underlined stuff is just a bit of an exaggeration I'd say. But certainly anti-American sentiment is quite present in Canada.
What really dominates sentiment about the U.S. in most of Canada is a strong feeling that Canadians have actually built "a better America". This is especially strong among English-speaking Canadians who are somewhat touchy about the so-called cultural "differences" (or lack thereof) that distinguish them from Americans. For example, they really hate being mistaken for Americans when travelling abroad.
There is anti-American sentiment in Quebec as well, but it's more of the "bourgeois socialist" left-leaning pacifist kind that you would find in many places in Europe. On this issue at least, French-speaking Canadians are more secure in their identity vis-à-vis the U.S. and don't feel a need to distinguish themselves by invoking stuff that is sometimes tinged with moral superiority like "we're more compassionate, more tolerant than you guys..." that you often hear in Anglo-Canada.
I've always believed that Canada is only able to be such a friendly nation because they have a big brother next door who keeps them safe. If they are ever seriously threatened they have the USA to help them out. Canada never had to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a massive air force, nuclear warheads, ICBMs, etc. All they had to do was stay allied with the USA and we let them take cover behind our shield wall.
As for Canada being compassionate and friendly, compassionate for who?
Trudeau helped Robert Mugabe during the 1970s when he was conducting his terror campaign. He later ordered Canadian military units to help Castro insert 20,000 Cuban soldiers into Angola. They had to help the Cubans with the logistics, particularly with refueling operations.
Canada acts like a big friend and ally of the USA, but then they go off and do things such as recognizing China before anybody else, helping Robert Mugabe, helping Castro put Cuban soldiers in Angola, helping the marxists in Tanzania, Kenya, Mozambique, etc. Trudeau never met a Marxist that he didn't like. Canadians kept electing his party again and again, what does that say? He was in office for 15 years, almost twice as long as Dubya or Clinton (America makes a lot of mistakes too, but I digress)...
Canada sees itself as this new and improved version of the USA despite the fact that they burn books, they jail preachers if sermons contain anything against homosexuality, they confiscate firearms from citizens who registered them under false promises that confiscations would never take place. It's basically a Twilight Zone version of the United States.
The people think they're super righteous and that the world loves them. If it wasn't for the USA then any second-rate military power with enough planes and boats could take over Canada without much of a problem. It's easy to think you're better because you are able to focus your creative energies on whatever you want, not having to worry about defense, because somebody else handles that for you. We in the USA have historically spent a lot of time and resources on defending ourselves (although sadly we've also spent a lot on attacking others without just cause).
I do frequently get the idea that if Canadians had the chance, and assuming something happened to make them less timid, they would massacre as many Americans as they could get their hands on (a while back they burnt down our capital and many of them still laugh about this). There are only a few Canadians I know or have conversed with who have any sort of positive view of America and Americans. The majority regard us with varying degrees of open contempt, ranging from mild to extreme and potentially violent. If the Queen ordered them to attack, they most certainly would.
Despite the fact that their big brother to the south keeps them safe and helps them, they're insanely jealous over their realization of the fact that they depend so much on this big brother. They hate the hand that feeds them.
I've always believed that Canada is only able to be such a friendly nation because they have a big brother next door who keeps them safe. If they are ever seriously threatened they have the USA to help them out. Canada never had to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a massive air force, nuclear warheads, ICBMs, etc. All they had to do was stay allied with the USA and we let them take cover behind our shield wall.
As for Canada being compassionate and friendly, compassionate for who?
Trudeau helped Robert Mugabe during the 1970s when he was conducting his terror campaign. He later ordered Canadian military units to help Castro insert 20,000 Cuban soldiers into Angola. They had to help the Cubans with the logistics, particularly with refueling operations.
Canada acts like a big friend and ally of the USA, but then they go off and do things such as recognizing China before anybody else, helping Robert Mugabe, helping Castro put Cuban soldiers in Angola, helping the marxists in Tanzania, Kenya, Mozambique, etc. Trudeau never met a Marxist that he didn't like. Canadians kept electing his party again and again, what does that say? He was in office for 15 years, almost twice as long as Dubya or Clinton (America makes a lot of mistakes too, but I digress)...
Canada sees itself as this new and improved version of the USA despite the fact that they burn books, they jail preachers if sermons contain anything against homosexuality, they confiscate firearms from citizens who registered them under false promises that confiscations would never take place. It's basically a Twilight Zone version of the United States.
The people think they're super righteous and that the world loves them. If it wasn't for the USA then any second-rate military power with enough planes and boats could take over Canada without much of a problem. It's easy to think you're better because you are able to focus your creative energies on whatever you want, not having to worry about defense, because somebody else handles that for you. We in the USA have historically spent a lot of time and resources on defending ourselves (although sadly we've also spent a lot on attacking others without just cause).
I do frequently get the idea that if Canadians had the chance, and assuming something happened to make them less timid, they would massacre as many Americans as they could get their hands on (a while back they burnt down our capital and many of them still laugh about this). There are only a few Canadians I know or have conversed with who have any sort of positive view of America and Americans. The majority regard us with varying degrees of open contempt, ranging from mild to extreme and potentially violent. If the Queen ordered them to attack, they most certainly would.
Despite the fact that their big brother to the south keeps them safe and helps them, they're insanely jealous over their realization of the fact that they depend so much on this big brother. They hate the hand that feeds them.
I was just reporting on what I've observed out there in Canada, not necessarily saying I agree with it.
I've always believed that Canada is only able to be such a friendly nation because they have a big brother next door who keeps them safe. If they are ever seriously threatened they have the USA to help them out. Canada never had to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a massive air force, nuclear warheads, ICBMs, etc. All they had to do was stay allied with the USA and we let them take cover behind our shield wall.
As for Canada being compassionate and friendly, compassionate for who?
Trudeau helped Robert Mugabe during the 1970s when he was conducting his terror campaign. He later ordered Canadian military units to help Castro insert 20,000 Cuban soldiers into Angola. They had to help the Cubans with the logistics, particularly with refueling operations.
Canada acts like a big friend and ally of the USA, but then they go off and do things such as recognizing China before anybody else, helping Robert Mugabe, helping Castro put Cuban soldiers in Angola, helping the marxists in Tanzania, Kenya, Mozambique, etc. Trudeau never met a Marxist that he didn't like. Canadians kept electing his party again and again, what does that say? He was in office for 15 years, almost twice as long as Dubya or Clinton (America makes a lot of mistakes too, but I digress)...
Canada sees itself as this new and improved version of the USA despite the fact that they burn books, they jail preachers if sermons contain anything against homosexuality, they confiscate firearms from citizens who registered them under false promises that confiscations would never take place. It's basically a Twilight Zone version of the United States.
The people think they're super righteous and that the world loves them. If it wasn't for the USA then any second-rate military power with enough planes and boats could take over Canada without much of a problem. It's easy to think you're better because you are able to focus your creative energies on whatever you want, not having to worry about defense, because somebody else handles that for you. We in the USA have historically spent a lot of time and resources on defending ourselves (although sadly we've also spent a lot on attacking others without just cause).
I do frequently get the idea that if Canadians had the chance, and assuming something happened to make them less timid, they would massacre as many Americans as they could get their hands on (a while back they burnt down our capital and many of them still laugh about this). There are only a few Canadians I know or have conversed with who have any sort of positive view of America and Americans. The majority regard us with varying degrees of open contempt, ranging from mild to extreme and potentially violent. If the Queen ordered them to attack, they most certainly would.
Despite the fact that their big brother to the south keeps them safe and helps them, they're insanely jealous over their realization of the fact that they depend so much on this big brother. They hate the hand that feeds them.
You're right, Trudeau was a loon, but he's also the same one that smuggled the US hostages out of Iran in 1979 with Canadian passports while the world stood by.
As a Canadian living in the states, I have to say the only time the "We burned the White House" things come out are in direct response to "The US has never lost a war on it's own soil" "Greatest country in the world" blah blah blah crap.
Canadians are very proud of their country, and are also it's greatest detractors. There is very little jingoistic, my country right or wrong sentiment that is very prevalent in the US. As a result, Canadians are usually quick to try to knock down a peg those that are percieved to be a bit full of themselves.
You're right, Trudeau was a loon, but he's also the same one that smuggled the US hostages out of Iran in 1979 with Canadian passports while the world stood by.
As a Canadian living in the states, I have to say the only time the "We burned the White House" things come out are in direct response to "The US has never lost a war on it's own soil" "Greatest country in the world" blah blah blah crap.
Canadians are very proud of their country, and are also it's greatest detractors. There is very little jingoistic, my country right or wrong sentiment that is very prevalent in the US. As a result, Canadians are usually quick to try to knock down a peg those that are percieved to be a bit full of themselves.
We've never lost a war on our own soil. The War of 1812 was basically a situation where we lost the battles but won the war. It was the opposite of Vietnam where we won every battle but lost the war.
War is the pursuit of political objectives through non-political means. Since we secured our political objectives with the peace that ended the War of 1812, we won the war, despite having lost basically every single major battle.
Our Canada geese agents recently began their attack on US commercial aviation. Further action to follow.
Of course you really don't have much to worry about, the government doesn't allow Canadians to have guns. The pointy stick registry is next, of course it will probably cost $2B instead of the $1B lost on the firearms registry.
Overall you'll find Canadians have very little bad to say about individual Americans, except for the myopic, unintelligent variety, and are like the majority of the world, not overly fond of some American Goverment policies. Sometimes the two get confused.
Our Canada geese agents recently began their attack on US commercial aviation. Further action to follow.
Of course you really don't have much to worry about, the government doesn't allow Canadians to have guns. The pointy stick registry is next, of course it will probably cost $2B instead of the $1B lost on the firearms registry.
Any chance Canadians are up for burning it again?
Call it urban renewal and mark it up as charitable activities.
Canadian cities are NOT that clean or well maintained, I think this is just a misconception Americans have, most never having been there.
As a person who is dual national and has lived in both countries, I can tell you most Canadian cities are pretty poorly planned and run down, bad roads, crumbling infrastructure, lack of adequate highways.
I mean just go to Winnipeg, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Montreal, many parts of Toronto, Eastside Vancouver, all very poor dirty and run down. Even the Calgary stampede is held in a drug ridden run down area of downtown and one has to park on abandoned house lawns, and these are pretty much the only major cities in Canada, this is where the vast majority of the people live.
Montreal has especially terrible roads and infrastructure conditions, and broken down buildings everywhere.
I'm not saying U.S cities are perfect, but there are numerous cities in the U.S, and I have seen overall far nicer and cleaner areas in the U.S its just the U.S never really gets credit for it.
Also overall I think there is far more opportunity in the U.S especially for highly educated people, in Canada you see people with advanced degrees driving cabs and cleaning toilets, doctors working at Burger King, there is a lot of redtape and bs involved with trying to do anything, highly draconian institutions and redtape.
That's why the U.S is the place to be for anyone ambitious educated and motivated. You may ask why don't all these educated immigrants come to the states then, well if you ask them you'll find out that's where they wanted to go but the immigration system makes it next to impossible, while you can immigrate to Canada relativley easily.
GOD Bless America.
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Also I hate it when people in Canada try to generalize the U.S, and act like all of it is Compton California.
How can one generalize a land which has tropical Hawaii, all the way to Maine, New Mexico to Alaska.
The U.S has it all, one could spend their whole life in the U.S and not get bored of it.
Everything Canadians think they have, you can find a better version of it in the U.S, the New England border states (Vermont, Maine etc.) offer all the cleanliness & peace one could want, but unlike their bordering Canadian provinces actually have an economy!!
Alaska has all the snow and mountains and beauty one could want.
We have Hawaii if you want to get away to a tropical climate.
There is just so much in the States to see and do.
What other country on earth can offer you so much variation??
Canada has terrible weather from coast to coast, constant rain to disgusting amounts of snow and windchills, is it any wonder most of it is uninhabited?
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being mistaken for Americans when travelling abroad. 
