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Yep. that's why. And it will only get worse towards the end. He became the evil fallen angel and the father of lies, so he is doing what is in his nature.
"When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
Notice Jesus says "he". That is in reference to the creature, Satan, not to man's inner desire to sin.
This is a really good point. But when people twist orthodoxy into a pretzel where Jesus Christ, True God and True Man, becomes some sort of energy or "Christ Consciousness" (not that I'm naming any names of anyone here who does this or anything ), Satan, too, becomes an abstraction--some kind of "negative energy" inside our "primitive consciousness" (instead of the Fallen Angel that he is).
This is a really good point. But when people twist orthodoxy into a pretzel where Jesus Christ, True God and True Man, becomes some sort of energy or "Christ Consciousness" (not that I'm naming any names of anyone here who does this or anything ), Satan, too, becomes an abstraction--some kind of "negative energy" inside our "primitive consciousness" (instead of the Fallen Angel that he is).
Sorry, I have to go p*ke now....
If you've read the bible you see that there was never any fallen angel.
A verse in Gen 6 and Isaiah 14 somehow tied together create that misunderstanding...
Read it and see... the first one is confusing but surely people weren't punished because angels lusted after their women?
And the second clearly states "you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon".. so its about a real person not an angel.
These types of things perpetuate ignorance in scripture IMO
If you've read the bible you see that there was never any fallen angel.
A verse in Gen 6 and Isaiah 14 somehow tied together create that misunderstanding...
Read it and see... the first one is confusing but surely people weren't punished because angels lusted after their women?
And the second clearly states "you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon".. so its about a real person not an angel.
These types of things perpetuate ignorance in scripture IMO
Katjonn, I have read the Bible, but unlike you, I don't view the Bible as something akin to the U.S. Constitution with myself as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court with executive decision-making power about how it should be interpreted.
Does God have an adversary (satan) in scripture or is it always man who has the adversary (satan)? And who is God's adversary (satan) if there is one?
The idea that there is a supernatural bad guy is simple absurd to me... God has competition? Who would be stupid enough to challenge a god in the first place? Is this Greek mythology?
Yes Amen!! That's exactly the point I was trying to make, although you put it much better.
I do believe that Satan is a supernatural being, as well as there being light and dark within each of us. But I'm still not convinced that he is trying to take as many souls with him to "hell" as he can before his time's up....that just does not compute. If his fate were an eternal lake of fire then he would be trying to reconcile with God, not continuing in his evil. There's something terribly wrong with the whole ET picture of Satan and his fate.
Yes, you and InsaneInDaMembrane are spot on here.
Always remember the truth is not illogical or contradictory. If Satan really is here to "bring down to hell as many souls as he can", why on earth
has God not stopped Him? Surely God does not want people to suffer forever (but some here do think that). It's absurd.
The real reason Satan is here is to provide some of the necessary adversity for our character growth. Adversity builds character. Everything (including Satan) is working exactly to God's plan.
Regarding the OP, whether Satan knows this or not - I don't know. It is clear though that Satan can only do what God allows. God is not stupid or evil - Satan has not tricked God or twisted His arm.
Katjonn, I have read the Bible, but unlike you, I don't view the Bible as something akin to the U.S. Constitution with myself as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court with executive decision-making power about how it should be interpreted.
I didn't mean to imply that you haven't read your bible... I meant from cover to cover in order. It is a story after all. Sorry for the confusion.
If you do that you see that in Genesis there is a holy line of the children of Adam in Seth. Those holy ones are called giants or men of renown. These are the ones that disobeyed God and lusted after women not in the race of Seth.
That isn't interpretation it is character evaluation as you would do in a normal story with characters in it.
The same with Isaiah 14. They are being oppressed by the Babylonian king. They are to say to the king that he will be taken down and ruined. He was a prince in the eyes of God but now he has fallen.
There is no interpretation needed. It is all in the story of Babylonian captivity...
I didn't mean to imply that you haven't read your bible... I meant from cover to cover in order. It is a story after all. Sorry for the confusion.
If you do that you see that in Genesis there is a holy line of the children of Adam in Seth. Those holy ones are called giants or men of renown. These are the ones that disobeyed God and lusted after women not in the race of Seth.
That isn't interpretation it is character evaluation as you would do in a normal story with characters in it.
The same with Isaiah 14. They are being oppressed by the Babylonian king. They are to say to the king that he will be taken down and ruined. He was a prince in the eyes of God but now he has fallen.
There is no interpretation needed. It is all in the story of Babylonian captivity...
Are you interpreting outside the story?
Katjonn, I don't follow the rule of "private interpretation" like you do. I interpret in accordance with the teachings of the Magesterium of the Roman Catholic Church.
I realise you know next to nothing about Catholicism -- I have been around with you about this fact before. It is with this in mind that I am reminding you again that I am a Roman Catholic, and that my Rule of Faith is not sola scriptura.
Katjonn, I don't follow the rule of "private interpretation" like you do. I interpret in accordance with the teachings of the Magesterium of the Roman Catholic Church.
I realise you know next to nothing about Catholicism -- I have been around with you about this fact before. It is with this in mind that I am reminding you again that I am a Roman Catholic, and that my Rule of Faith is not sola scriptura.
You are right... I know nothing about Catholicism.... After reading through the Catholic Encyclopedia's section on the devil I see that there is so much taken from the scripture and less about tradition... Why do you say they are not sola scriptura if what I see is mostly from scripture about satan?
Perhaps they have it wrong or you differ... to expect me to know the intricacies of what you believe is expecting too much IMO
But it still stands that using scripture there is no reason to think there is a supernatural bad guy.
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), Satan, too, becomes an abstraction--some kind of "negative energy" inside our "primitive consciousness" (instead of the Fallen Angel that he is).
Are you sure you understood my comment?
