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View Poll Results: Do you believe that "true Christians" ever sin?
Yes ... 60 92.31%
NO! 5 7.69%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-25-2010, 04:08 PM
 
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So you have obeyed all of the 613 laws of God? Wow! very cool, good WORK!

I'm not a religious person like the Jews or Christians. I obeyed the spoken Word of God, who is the law, the love and the truth. It took him 29 years to get me sinless and on June 14, 2008, he successfully changed my last genetic traits to stop the power of sin. Then I started getting new thoughts and this is the knowledge of God, which is the truth.
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:11 PM
 
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I agree, I wish the perfection crowd did also.

It's impossible for sinners to love the lord with all their heart, mind and soul and love their neighbor as themselves. First, they need the love of God in them and this requires God to remove all their sins so they can receive the love of God. The love of God is knowledge, which is the truth.

The love sinners understand comes from the their sins and this is selfish love.
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Old 09-25-2010, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, BC
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It's impossible for sinners to love the lord with all their heart, mind and soul and love their neighbor as themselves. First, they need the love of God in them and this requires God to remove all their sins so they can receive the love of God. The love of God is knowledge, which is the truth.

The love sinners understand comes from the their sins and this is selfish love.
I do believe what you are saying here. I too believe that it is God's Love that truly transforms our souls. I have been receiving his love for many years but there are parts of my nature that I am still struggling with.

For one, I live in a nice home, I have a cabin at the lake which to me feels like I am in heaven when I am there. I wonder though if I give enough to the poor to have such nice things in my life? Maybe I am greedy ? This is a part of me that I struggle with. Maybe I shouldn't have such a nice roof over my head and to top it off a cabin on a lake...maybe I should have given more $$$ to the poor and needy..... i still feel I am not quite there yet. I work very, very hard for what I have but perhaps too materialistic to truly be a divine child of God. I don't know but I still have a ways to go. I am praying on this.

If you are at the Kingdom good on you.....and do you live a very unmaterialistic life VoiceofGod ?
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:15 PM
 
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I am curious...do you think that it is sinful for me to have a cabin on the lake?

Also, I am curious about your humble existence......please explain.

We were on topic as far as God is concerned. He's the only one we have to please during our life because sinners demand that we please them. That's called selfish love that has nothing to do with God.
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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If you depend on the scriptures for your truth, you will never become a sinless saint and preach the gospel that I preach.
Oh, wow.
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Old 09-25-2010, 09:30 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Oh, wow.
I missed that!
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Old 09-26-2010, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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To answer the OP: yes, I believe true Christians still sin, because we still have our carnal mind which loves sin, to deal with. (the old nature...the "old man" of the flesh)
Our spirit (the inner man) becomes a new creation in Christ upon being born again, but the mind (soul) is a totally different matter: it may take an entire life time to accomplish the renewal of the mind.
If somebody has an "insider secret" to never, never, ever, sinning, ever again, then please do the rest of us a favor: explain how you did it!

Bud
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Anyone who is subject to mortality is subject to the sin nature. It's that simple.
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:06 AM
 
Location: US
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I believe that we all sin and that no one is perfect and will not be perfect until they are at one with The Father. I don't believe any mortal will be completely at one with the Father in this age.

So I believe that if you answer No that you do not sin that you are lying and that is a sin
Where does it say lieing is a sin...
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:08 AM
 
Location: US
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You can't be both a Christian and a sinner! A true Christian is not aware when he sins. If he is aware... that he didn't understand a thing from the Bible and the teachings of Jesus and he is not true Christians! But he can become one!
A believer is only positionally righteous in this world...
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