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Positional Sanctification which is automatic at the moment of faith in Jesus Christ. Acts 26:18; 1 Cor 6:11; Heb 10:10,14
Experiential Sanctification which requires continued spiritual growth of the believer after salvation. Eph 5; 2 Cor 7:1; 2 Tim 2:19-22
Ultimate Sanctification which is future and pertains to the resurrection of the body. Phil 3:21; 1 John 3:2; Rom 8:29; 1 Cor 15:35-54. The word sanctification itself is not used, but the principle applies.
And don't forget the hypostatic, hydromatic, hypnogogic, hydrostatic, hypocritical, kenotic, stenotic, hypnosis too. It is not something simple you know . . . like just "love God and each other"and repent when you don't or something!
Yes, Christ set us free from trying TO DO things or NOT DO things to make ourselves worthy. He loves us where we are. This is NOT saying that those who love God will indulge in sinful things of the world or encourage others to do things that the law tells us not to do. It is not a carte blanche license to seek as much self gratification as you can bear. This only leads to unhappiness anyway.
When you seek God in your heart, then He begins to put those things in your heart that bear fruit.
I think what Verna believes is (and correct me if I'm wrong), that no one is saved just because they keep the law, but no one is saved if they don't keep it. Verna?
Faith is NOT just Passive NEITHER is it Active...It is both...
i cannot be saved by keeping the law becasue there are too many. i think over 600 of them. so when someone tells me to keep the sabbath but cannot remember at least another 300 by memory then i think they are picking what suits them. My memory cannot contain that many laws. I guess i depend on the Mercy of God.
i cannot be saved by keeping the law becasue there are too many. i think over 600 of them. so when someone tells me to keep the sabbath but cannot remember at least another 300 by memory then i think they are picking what suits them. My memory cannot contain that many laws. I guess i depend on the Mercy of God.
Hi Torpedos, what you have written here is precisely why it is absolutely imperative to have an accurate understanding of what "law" means in the NT. It is a word not used arbitrarily and it does not always refer to the 613 rules of the Mosaic Law. Those 613 are not the law that Christians are required to obey. But if we don't understand the important distinctions that Paul makes about law, we risk tossing out the baby with the bathwater.... a mistake with huge consequences to our understanding of the necessity of obedience.
Blessings
Steph
Hi Torpedos, what you have written here is precisely why it is absolutely imperative to have an accurate understanding of what "law" means in the NT. It is a word not used arbitrarily and it does not always refer to the 613 rules of the Mosaic Law. Those 613 are not the law that Christians are required to obey. But if we don't understand the important distinctions that Paul makes about law, we risk tossing out the baby with the bathwater.... a mistake with huge consequences to our understanding of the necessity of obedience.
Blessings
Steph
Well, Richard, you continue to do what your heart tells you to. I have found freedom in Christ.
I will listen to Paul who said attempting to become righteous by adherence to the law is like being Hagar, a bondwoman. I choose to be like Sarah, the free woman. The law was a contract promising rewards based on man's actions. The promise, given to Abraham, was NOT dependent on anything Abraham did. God put Abraham to sleep and HE implemented the covenant strictly based on what He would do because it pleases Him to do it. The law did NOT nullify the promise. The law was given to show us how sinful we are.
This is NOT to say that believers SHOULD devote themselves to this carnal world and run after the pleasures of it. Only those who are pruned and die to self will rule with Christ. But I will NOT insist upon someone following a checklist. God writes in our hearts what we should do and the FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT law is to love God and when we realize who He is and what He is doing for and in us, that outshines any good deed we can ever perform. THEN we are to love our neighbor as ourselves and if you can do that, you will be a disciple of the Son of God and on your way to becoming a disciple yourself. I can't say I'm even close to being there. God has a lot of pruning to do in my heart.
But you continue to check each step you take by the law. If you find comfort in that, far be it from me to snatch it away.
May the sunshine of God's love shine in each one's heart today and draw us ever closer to His radiance.
Peace.
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